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Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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Guys (Gals)-

I am looking for a dedicated streamer (trout) / bass fishing fly rod for larger streamers. I was thinking of a 7wt, 9ft. I visited a shop today and the boss took me out back and started casting a switch rod. He swore by them.

I have never seen someone throw such distance so easily. He was pounding out over 100 foot cast effortlessly. That was really cool.

I cast the rod, and I can see that it would be really fun to learn the techniques. But I am not sure that the rod would serve my main purpose.

I want to float rivers, like the D, and pound the banks with streamers. I also want to fish ponds and streams from my Kayak for bass, and other warm water species.

Distance casting does not seem as important as accuracy. Anyone use one of these rods on a regular basis, and like it???

JG

Posted on: 2010/1/18 15:38


Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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I've been having this argument with myself alot lately. My answer will almost positively be a TFO Teeny 10' 5wt, and when I decide that I need to pick up two handed stuff, then its just a little bit of custom fidgeting and I should be abl to mount an extended handle on the back in lieu of a butt.

Or, I never modify and Cabela's offers a super sale on their LST switchers. :)

Posted on: 2010/1/18 16:06
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Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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gfen wrote:
My answer will almost positively be a TFO Teeny 10' 5wt


Oddly enough, I just happen to know where you can get a really good deal on a Teeny 10' 5wt 5pc rod, with a custom case (divided liner) for a great price.

One man's switch rod is another man's little brush rod...

Posted on: 2010/1/18 16:28


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I have never used switch/spey rods but I saw a very interesting show on flyfishing profiles yesterday.
They were at a lodge on the thompson [sp] river in BC. fishing for steelhead.The spey rods are the rage there and all were using them.
As it happens I spent 30 years in Montana where Streamer fishing big rivers was my "thing".
I wade fished.
9 ft. 8wt. for the Missouri.
9 ft. 7 wt. for yellowstone
9 ft. 6wt. smaller rivers -Madison etc.
I used shooting heads with amnesia running line[20pd.mono]on larger rivers.
seemed to me there was a lot more effort with the spey than double haul but one thing stood out-the talker mentioned mid water was their target area-I fished hispeed,hi d sinking lines to fish down to 8 or 9 ft.-so I wonder how well spey/switch[think they are the same] rods are with deep sinking lines?
humorous thing on the show was-
even though it's ALL catch and release the fly fishermen want to ban the bait fishermen.
Reason: bait fishermen average 7 hookups a day,fly fishermen 2 so they claim baiters are stressing the spawning stock three times as much.Couldn't be jealousy ,could it? Nah.

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Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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Quote:

Heritage-Angler wrote:
Oddly enough, I just happen to know where you can get a really good deal on a Teeny 10' 5wt 5pc rod, with a custom case (divided liner) for a great price.

One man's switch rod is another man's little brush rod...


I'd thought about asking, but never did. I figured I'd wait til after Somerset and what might show up.

Evidently, a used Teeny will be showing up.

Bring 'er along, we can play let's make a deal. :)

Posted on: 2010/1/18 16:43


Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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I would stick to the 9' 7wt. A switch rod has better use on a steelhead river. Ask the guy to cast a 9 footer 100 feet. should be able to do it. sure you can use it for trout but under NORMAL circunstances a 9' rod is best. I hve been casting swith rods since they came out, I do like them but only for certian situations. the butt most likely will interfer with your casting from a yak.

Posted on: 2010/1/18 17:53
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Elixir line really makes my Beulah 6/7 switch rock. The set up balances in the hand is not at all heavy in my hand and "guns" line like no other set up I have. I can single hand 110'+ casts and easily double hand that distance all day.
It should make my summer river fishing trips much more bearable. The head is a floater, my plan this summer is to use a dry fly with it.
I've been told it is a great nymph set up too.

Posted on: 2010/1/18 18:24


Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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o' by the way I am talking rivers not streams with this set up.

Posted on: 2010/1/18 18:25


Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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mrflyfish, that would be nice swingin BIG size 2 drys on the delaware for stripers, or a gurgler. I plan to use mine for that. what river are you fishing.

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Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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I did a lot of that type of fishing out west, and think a switch rod would be a PITA. It's great for distance casting and nymphing, but I would want a shorter, more accurate rod for pounding the banks with streamers.

Posted on: 2010/1/19 14:00


Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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A switch rod is a great tool for swinging flies for steelhead, trout and bass on medium to large streams when wading. The two-handed casting style is very relaxed and, when done correctly, almost effortless. However, I would think that while fishing from a boat or kayak a shorter rod(say, 9 foot?) would allow for more precise casting as well as making it easier to land the fish(with a 2-hander I tend to beach my larger fish). Maybe you need one of each?! Tight lines.

Posted on: 2010/1/21 22:34


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i would say for what you your application... a switch rod is not best.

For pounding the banks with streamers and warmwater, look at some of the shorter "bass" rods (sage and tfo).

Posted on: 2010/1/22 21:02


Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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The Allegheny River From Warren to Oil City. Predominately wading the river and swinging flies with a sink tips.

Posted on: 2010/1/23 15:29


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In my opinion I am happy with my switch rods.

I use is a lighter 5/6 wt. model for swinging flies on streams and nymphing. It is a very light rod and i can overhead or spey cast with it. The longer length allows for longer mends, easier line control and it length gives an advantage when speycast.

Also even though, you can speycast any rod of any length, with the right line, a longer rod does have an advantages in placing an anchor and getting a long line out.

My second rod is a 6/7 wt. that i use with a single hand Outbound line to cast bass bugs, streamer, divers and clouser minnows for bass, panfish and other warmwater fish. I have cast this line from my kayak, canoe and on the bank. I started using a switch rod for throwing the big stuff for bass, because double hauling all day get tiring. Now with a my switch rod i just put a second hand on the rod and gain the energy from both hands on the rod, instead of gaining the energy from one hand on the line.

I change up lines to a AFS 6/7 for situations that require speycasting. I have used speycasting on warmwater fish with this rod with out a problem.

As far as accuracy or sight fishing and pounding banks, if you use a line on a switch rod design for overhead work or even a scandi/shooting head system is it not a problem at all.

Just my experience with my switch rod, hope it helps.

jcspey

Posted on: 2010/1/23 18:07


Re: Would I be happy with a switch rod???

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Thanks everyone for you comments. A switch rod is in my future, but I am going with a straight 9' 7 wt. I cast a few at the show this weekend. Now to dig up some cash...

Posted on: 2010/1/24 21:38
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