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Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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Rubber is great so long as you have studs. I like the Orvis posi grip studs. I just bought simms star cleats but have not tried them yet. As for the boot, I think its personal preference. I just bought my second pair of Simms rivershed boots. I tend to hike a lot and I like the rubber rand all the way around the foot, it adds durability and gives a little grip in akward situations when your feet are sliding between rocks.

Posted on: 2013/11/24 20:41


Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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Rubber is great so long as you have studs. I like the Orvis posi grip studs. I just bought simms star cleats but have not tried them yet. As for the boot, I think its personal preference. I just bought my second pair of Simms rivershed boots. I tend to hike a lot and I like the rubber rand all the way around the foot, it adds durability and gives a little grip in akward situations when your feet are sliding between rocks.


How did the sizing on the Rivershed boot run for you?

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Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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Simm's "Guide" boot. IMO the best wading shoe on the market.


theyre on steepandcheap.com right now for $111.00

Posted on: 2013/11/25 7:37


Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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I splurged on a pair of Simms a year or two back. Guide boot, with the rivershed soles. Here's my impression.

Great boot! But the soles don't even approach felt from a safety standpoint. They're just fine on broken surfaces, medium sized river rock, and the like. But big, flat rocks are the separator. For instance, Erie shale, or the enormous boulders of some faster streams, or that big angled rock you wanna get on in that brookie stream.

If you frequent larger waters with broken surfaces, you won't miss felt at all. If you frequent places with lots of big rocks, like that, you'll miss felt, but it's still "doable", you just have to be a little more careful and test your footing. You get used to it.

Posted on: 2013/11/25 8:48


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I splurged on a pair of Simms a year or two back. Guide boot, with the rivershed soles. Here's my impression.

Great boot! But the soles don't even approach felt from a safety standpoint. They're just fine on broken surfaces, medium sized river rock, and the like. But big, flat rocks are the separator. For instance, Erie shale, or the enormous boulders of some faster streams, or that big angled rock you wanna get on in that brookie stream.

If you frequent larger waters with broken surfaces, you won't miss felt at all. If you frequent places with lots of big rocks, like that, you'll miss felt, but it's still "doable", you just have to be a little more careful and test your footing. You get used to it.


Fair evaluation above.

To add some info, felt is horrible (no traction) for the hike in or on the bank in mud or even wet leaves.

Also, in the winter, the felt bottoms freeze and accumulate snow, so you end up with a two mini snowboards to ssslide on!

Add in the difficultly to clean and dry felt to combat spreading evasives.

I have both, and overall prefer studded rubber to felt.

Posted on: 2013/11/25 9:29


Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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Anyone want to buy a pair of G4 guide boots in size 10? Worn maybe a dozen times.

Tom,
Never have to worry about snow build up on felts if you stay inside and wait for fishable weather.

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Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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I bought a pair of the Simm's boots with Vibram soles about 2 years ago when my studded felt boots had seen better days. I added 8 star cleats to each boot in a pattern that made sense to me. IMHO nothing can beat studded felt for overall stability and safety in the kind of fishing that I do in streams and rivers. Needless to say, I have been frustrated by the new product. Obviously, a big factor is the kind of bottom you find in the stream. In streams with a lot a flat stones like slate or a gravel bottom, the boots seem to work fine. But, in a stream full of round cobble stones or bowling balls, they are not good. If you can place you foot on a relatively flat surface, the cleats will tend to bite in. But, invariably, I will put my weight on the outside edge of the sole where there is no cleats as I step onto a slippery, angled rock and it isn't pretty.

Posted on: 2013/11/25 13:42


Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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I have a pair of Simms Headwaters boots with Vibram rubber sole. Installed the expensive star cleats with the impregnated bits of metal. I thinkk they provide great traction in most settings. I'm careful on flat wet surfaces but I would be with felt too. My only complaint is when I replaced some of the worn cleats I put the new ones back in the original holes. Lost a couple that way. If you need to replace any cleats with the self tapping variety, use different holes in the sole.

I've gotten excellent wear out of these boots and will replace thenm with an identical pair or other Simms model when they time comes.

Posted on: 2013/11/25 15:16
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Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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Judging from feedback, crossing Penns or littlie J in these soles...at a high flow...is a death sentence for the careless. I got the SS DaveS stuck in the Yough 2 weeks ago and almost went swimming when I stepped out. I did go neck deep during the Catskill Jam in October. Not a fan and may switch to Chota or someone making studded felts

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Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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You could argue crossing Penns or the LJR at HIGH flow is a bad idea nomatter what's on your feet. I guess it depends what you mean by high.

Generally, speaking, while neither of these streams should be described as "easy wading", neither rank up there as real bad, either. And the main problem is depth and current, rather than bottom structure. I've worn my Simms in both waterways with no real problems. Crossing was an adventure even in typical flows, but it always was with felt too.

The Lehigh, and some smaller, bouldery brookie streams is where I've missed felt. And Erie (though felt solves one problem, but adds another there with snow and ice).

Posted on: 2013/11/26 9:02


Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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I just bought the Simms Vibram boots because I just didn't like the Orvis boots I have had for 3 years. The Orvis boots just didn't fit well and I could never get them tied tight enough. The Simms were great right out of the box. I really like this boot and sole a lot. I have had some wading issues but they have been more my fault that the boots.
I agree that the studs are expensive so I never bought them but I will look into the studs that some of the others are using.
I also looked at Chota's too. I have a old pair of Chota felts that are still functional but the new boots didn't fit as well as the Simms.

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Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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I've always been a fan of Chota. I think they're a bit wider, which makes them fit my duck feet a bit better, and makes on/off go easier. I have not tried their rubber soled ones, though, and have no input there.

My Simms are better build quality, just a more solid "boot". That has it's ups and downs.

Posted on: 2013/11/27 10:06


Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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I got a lot of use out of the Chota studded felts before I switched to rubber soles. Chota makes a quality wading shoe.

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Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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At the risk of being labeled as a complainer, I'll weigh in on the Chota as well. The Chota felt sole boots with the replaceable sheet metal screw studs really bite into the rocks when brand new. The problem is that the screws wear down very fast, like in just a few trips. After that, they are so rounded off that it is like being on ice skates. Very dangerous. Now, maybe with a better quality stud, these would perform well.

Posted on: 2013/11/27 11:42


Re: Vibram sole wading boot

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I'm also no fan of the replaceable sheet metal screw studs. They don't bite as hard as the old fashioned carbide tipped studs IMO. And they certainly do wear down fast, and are quite treacherous then.

A few years back now, I developed pain in my heels while walking - and was diagnosed with what's called plantar fasciaitis. (sp)
And have found wading with any studded boot to be rather uncomfortable.
So, I've recently gone back to wearing just plain old felt soles again. And hope that PA doesn't outlaw them

Posted on: 2013/11/27 12:22



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