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Over lining a rod

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I recently acquired a cabelas 5'9" cgr 3wt that I'll use almost exclusively on small native streams and in the smokies this fall. I was thinking of putting 4wt line on it to slow it down. I've never over lined a rod, can you guys share some pros and cons to doing this?

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It's not a rod that needs slowing down.

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Gfen, why always the cryptic answers?

Anyways, yes you can over-line a rod particularly when fishing with a short line to load the rod. Don't know a downside if it feels better when casting.

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I was actually wondering about doing the same myself does it actually help to over line a rod?

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Well, that's kind of what I meant. I won't really even "cast" on a lot of the streams they're so small.... Thought it might throw line a little better over lined if I'm just flipping a few feet

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Don't have any experience with that rod but I've never felt the need to over line a slow to medium action rod. I have never had a problem brook trout fishing with any rod I have ever used that had a slower action, it should load easy enough.

In reality if your just flipping a fly into the water with a couple feet of line out of the rod you won't really tell a difference. I would just try using a stiff leader with a 25 lb butt section, that should turn your flies over with just a flick of your wrist.

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My 4wt rod feels and casts better with 5wt line. When I posted a question about this on the forum the common response was the wt rating on the rod is an approximation. I was amazed at how many people overweight the rod.

You have to test the rod with 4wt line.


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Maybe Gfen's point was that one up or one down just effects how you should use and time your stroke. If over or under lining helps, who is to argue. But I wouldn't throw away a good line to do either.

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Each rod is different. As well, each fishing situation is different such as the type of fishing being done and the size of the stream fished. Try the rod with a 4wt line and see how it fishes>>>>Note: Hero casting on the lawn won't tell you much, it's best to actually rig and fish the rod and line to see if the setup works. Good luck.


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Maybe Gfen's point was that one up or one down just effects how you should use and time your stroke. If over or under lining helps, who is to argue. But I wouldn't throw away a good line to do either.


Nope. My point was that its not a rod that needs slowing down, exactly as I said it.

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ok, gfen... let me be very specific. I feel like you might have some hidden knowledge somewhere down deep....

Will I be able to make short casts more easily if I overline the rod?

I don't really want to go buy a 4wt line just to try as I typically go with a better line and don't want to buy 2... which leads to another question. Will I really benefit putting a good line like GPX on a short rod that I'll probably only cast a few feet of in most situations or should I just go cheap?

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for me, I would go cheap double taper. when you start to feel like it is worn out, take off and turn around. 2 lines for the price of 1. winning.

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I have a three weight I over line when fishing on very small creeks or lots of canopy. I go to a 4DT as it loads the rod sooner and quicker. It’s also easier to roll cast. I.E. I don’t need to get *** amount of line, leader and tippet out to load the rod. I can do it with much less. It all depends on the rod. I have another three weight Mike Brooks made for me out of scrap pieces of bamboo. Ugly as sin but is awesome on a small stream. No over lining necessary but is a very full flexing rod. Usually the down side of over lining is very limited distance in your casting. The rod runs out of gas if that makes any sense. YMMV so good luck.
Rolf

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When I posted test a 4wt line I appreciated that you would not want to buy line just for a test.

An alternative is Orvis Clearwater. Their 3wt line is actually 3.5wt for $39.

Clearwater Fly Line


Posted on: 4/20 22:22


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The short answer to overlining the rod by one weight class for casting short is yes, it should be fine, maybe better. All of the today's rods can be used with a line weight on either side of its recommended line. Rod manufacturers rate there rods for 30' casts. Therefore, overlining a rod for distances less than 30' could make casting more enjoyable. And underlining a rod might prove beneficial when casting at distances over 30'. Let's say you are fishing big water, where you need to bomb long distances and the rod feels like it is maxed out. Would it not make sense to underline the rod? Sure it would. Give it a try.

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