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Good Small Stream Rod

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I'm fishing more and more small streams for brookies and loving it. My smallest rod is a 7.6 Scott and it is quite good but I was thinking of maybe going out and getting a nice 6.6 2wt or 3wt to fish those streams with. Do any of you have any advice or comments on the idea? Thanks.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 9:26


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This is total preference. But I prefer stout rods, more like 4 or 5 wts, and often load 6 wt line on them. I find it more effective, as the fish usually aren't drag shy nor do they scare easily from line splashes. The name of the game is (relative) distance and accuracy in tight places, as they do spook from a human form. And a very tight loop with virtually no backcast is very helpful, especially when you have brush or overhanging limbs to get under.

That said, a lot of people find lighter rods more enjoyable, even if its not more effective. And if that's your angle, by all means, have at it. For me, the light, delicate rods will remain as a tool for throwing tiny dry flies on more open streams, where they have some merit in the effectiveness category.

As for length. Most of my brookie work is done with a 7'6" rod, but there have been times when I wish I had a shorter rod. Use as long a rod as you can get away with, but not longer. The thickest of the thick places sometimes demand shorter rods. Not so much for the casting, as being really thick relegates you to a lot of bow and arrow, where longer rods are superior. But just being able to walk with the thing, yeah, short is often necessary.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 9:43


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If you're not already into fly rod building or know someone who assembles/wrap rods, Batson has a nice 6'6" 2wt RX7 blank for cheap.
I had a friend build one for me with a smallish cork grip, cork realseat and single foot recoil guides for under $65.
The rod cast very well (my opinion) and I now overline to a 3wt line which helps in giving me tighter loops for casting under overhanging vegetation.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 10:44


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I have several rods I like for fishing the little Brookie streams. I have a 7'6" St Croix Avid 2 weight, a G. Loomis GL3 6'6" 3 weight, and my favorite a Sage TXL 7' 4 weight. They all work fine and all catch fish. The Sage works the best for all-around because I can nymph and streamer fish with it. The ultra-light weight rods are VERY fun to fish with. What more can I say! Try one.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 10:52
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Dano, the Batson blank was the eaxct one I was looking at. But I didn't know Sage had a 7' 4 wt. I may need to consider that one too.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 11:08


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I have built a half dozen Batson 6'6" 2wts. and everybody loves them.

The kits can be found for like $70.

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Rick,
Save your money and get the Batson. I swear you'll be happy.
Put the money you saved on a Sage Click-II. It perfectly balances the rod.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 11:22


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Consider a bamboo rod. They are wonderful for this use. I have a 6'3" and two 7' bamboo rods that are my first choice when fishing tight spaces. All 4 wts.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 11:55


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I wouldn't trade my Sage TXL 7' 3 wt for any other rod. I've used it in a lot of different situations, and it has never disappointed. Casts and loads like a dream in tight quarters. I picked it up right as the TXL-F series was coming out, so it was cheaper than normal. You might still be able to find one floating around online somewhere. Just my 2 cents.

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Deuterium wrote:
Consider a bamboo rod. They are wonderful for this use. I have a 6'3" and two 7' bamboo rods that are my first choice when fishing tight spaces. All 4 wts.


6'3" PHY Midge?
I love my Beasley interpreted rendition. It's not just a small stream rod. It makes a fun medium stream dry fly stick.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 12:02


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Deuterium wrote:
Consider a bamboo rod. They are wonderful for this use. I have a 6'3" and two 7' bamboo rods that are my first choice when fishing tight spaces. All 4 wts.


6'3" PHY Midge?
I love my Beasley interpreted rendition. It's not just a small stream rod. It makes a fun medium stream dry fly stick.


My rod was made by the late George Maurer, based on the PHY midge taper. His model name is the Headwater. And I agree, it is much more versatile, but great on small bushy streams.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 12:17


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I'm w/ Pcray. I use a 6' Phillipson glass rod loaded w/ 6 weight. Its great for tight spots 'cause its just a flip of the wrist to shoot line out.

For the record, that little rod can cast a distance too. I was fishing a small stream on Saturday w/ the rod and came to a rare stretch that opened up about 50ft across. I was bombing casts w/ that little 6' rod. I love that rod.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 17:07


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I purchased a 7'6" St. Croix Avid 2 wt. for my "small stream" fishing, but to be honest, I have a tough time getting the rod to load properly and thus getting it to cast well. I have since started using a Sage VPS 7'6" 4 wt., which I absolutely LOVE. It casts like a dream, and I can get into tight quarters with it. That said, I wouldn't mind going lighter if I can get the right feel and casting with a lighter rod. I am currently exploring some options with lighter rods (just purchased a 7' 3 wt to try).

Not to hi-jack the thread, but would any of you more experience rod gurus recommend throwing a 3 wt line on the 2 wt?


Posted on: 2011/10/24 18:36


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I found that its not too bad of an idea to overload the lighter weight rods, especially for small streams.

Posted on: 2011/10/24 19:18


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I like to overload if the rod action is a medium but, if it's fast I tend to just load it up with which it's rated for.. just my preference though.

Posted on: 2011/10/25 13:09
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