The other end.

[osprey]

What would be you folks favorite LOW water fly? I asked so i'll tell mine first , would be either a foam ant 20-26 size or a griffiths gnat in the same sizes and i might add a downwing to either.

 

[flyfishermanj]

Zebra midge, 18 usually. Color is whatever I grab first.

JH

 

[Volksnurse]

Foam beetle or ant 18ish with a BH zebra 20/22 or an Al's rat 22-26.

 

[pwk5017]

Second the rat in size 20-22(anything smaller is just crazy to tie on, hold, tie, you name it). Depending on how low, a sz 18 frenchie can be dynamite. Sooo, al's rat for when its a trickle in september, and frenchie for when its low, but not august low.

For smallies, I always fish a sz10-12 green hopper with rubber legs. Really like low and clear smallie fishing.

 

[WildTigerTrout]

Simple for me, foam beetle size 14 or 16.

 

[Fredrick]

Mine would be the BMG

 

[osprey]

Howdy Fred..........that is bigger than most trout i catch when it gets low n clear , but it sure looks good.

 

[Chaz]

Fred, that looks like a good brookie fly!

 

[Fredrick]

It can be tied in brookie sizes . The deer hair head makes it ride just under the surface .

 

[Chaz]

Fred, What is a BMG?

 

[Fredrick]

Beast Master General

Chaz wrote:
Fred, What is a BMG?

 

[osprey]

Fred..........is that the name of the fly in the pic or is that a white marabou muddler?

 

[Chaz]

It's not a muddler t all, unless someone invented it and called it that thinking that's what they tied. I looked at images of white muddlers and all kinds of patterns were listed, many of them not even white.

 

[Fredrick]

osprey wrote:
Fred..........is that the name of the fly in the pic or is that a white marabou muddler?

Yes that is the name of the fly in the pic . I would send you a link to the tying instructions for the fly but the site is down for some reason

Jackgartside.com

 

[Fredrick]

Website is back up here is the step by step for the fly
http://www.jackgartside.com/step_beastmaster_general.htm

 

[osprey]

I read alot about Jack Gartside , he was the king of the saltie fly fishers and a cab driver in NY i think , that fly with a red tail n maybe a red throat would pass for what some locals would call a white marabou muddler , seems the way you trim the head is the trick.

 

[sandfly]

It's a copy of Lou Taborys snake fly.

 

[Fredrick]

sandfly wrote:
It's a copy of Lou Taborys snake fly.

All powerful and almighty saltwater fly guru do you have concrete evidence to support this claim if not Shame on You .

 

[sandfly]

tabory had his snake fly out for years, before jack was famous. besides he stole the idea for the gurgler, and yes I knew the originator. he called it the noname fly. we used it on the delaware before gartside borrowed it..not saying gartside was a thief but some of his ideas came from other people who tied..Tabory has been around a lot longer than gartside he's been known along the coast (new england) since the 70's. gartside didn't come about till the 80's or later.

 

[Fredrick]

And i'm sure Lefty's Deceiver is a completely original idea . The fly is similar but not the same . The master general fly was out for a long time before he put deer hair on it and made it the BMG . You could also argue that the Dahlberg diver is a copy of the snake fly . Or the clouser is a thundercreek with hourglass eyes. Do I need to go on forever with this one .

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