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Peeping Caddis pattern.

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I am really happy with the looks of this pattern. I am thinking of using the "Breadcrust" that was discussed earlier as the cased part on some of them as well. The flies I tied this morning consisted of a bead, some lead wire, inch worm foam bodies, (with head and legs colored with permanent marker) Hungarian partridge hackle and grey squirrel dubbing. Really easy, but they look pretty good. I did use some vevus pearl ribbing on one, but not sure I Like it yet.

I am thinking this will be a killer pattern for me this year. I did a few this morning and think they turned out ok. I don't really tie with soft hackle too often, so that will be the thing I will be working on the most.

I am wondering how long you all make the soft hackle fibers at the end. I know that caddis cases vary significantly, and it may not be that big of an issue, but I am really working at getting proper proportions down this year.

I was thinking that antron yarn, or polypropolene is the more excepted peeping material but I just wanted to give it a go with the foam. I don't tie many inch worms anyway ;)

Any other thoughts on materials for this pattern?

Any other variations I should look at?

Anyone have success with the peeping caddis pattern?

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"Peeking"

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Re: Peeping Caddis pattern.

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heard it called both ways. I like my caddis to peep LOL

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I like Gary La Fontaine's Cased Caddis pattern for species that use pebbles or sand.

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Most of the streams I have fished I have seen more sticks than anything. Saw some rather big ones in the first fork. My family keeps some on the first day and have never seen any of the fish with the larger ones inside them.

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Here's a whole bunch of pics from Google to give you some good ideas. Some really good flies and some really bad flies in the pics.

Peeking Caddis

Peeping caddis

Breadcrust



BTW, I've found the LaFountain Caddis pattern to work very well also.

If I tied just one, it would be the Breadcrust pattern. It is a proven fish catcher, so I would tie some up for this coming season. Good luck.

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Mike, a good general rule is for the soft hackle to extend to the bend of the hook, but a little shorter or a little longer never hurt a soul.

Here's a picture of a march brown flymph I just tied

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My cased caddis pattern is just peacock wrapped the whole length of the shank with a few turns of hungarian partridge at the eye. It works.

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Re: Peeping Caddis pattern.

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I wouldn't use foam and weight on the same fly, seems like you're fighting yourself. Partridge or hen hackle would be too long, I use a few turns of ostrich or emu. Google cased caddis and try to get something to look like the pictures. Regular old pheasant tail or even dyed pheasant tail makes a passable body material and isn't buoyant.

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Here is what I came up with at lunch. I was thinking foam was a bad idea and the post above brought that home. I brought some medium chenille with me to work. I still need to melt the head of the chenille. Cant really do that in the office. I will still play with the pattern. These are a bit bigger at a size 10 but came out ok. .20 lead free wire, with a 3.8mm tungsten bead the ought to get down.

Used the patridge for the "sticks" and squirrel dubbing for the case. A little gold ribbing to hold it together. I bet this would catch fish.

I like the black but I think the olive is a bit nicer looking. I will let the fish decide. I love using squirrel dubbing.

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Thanks fort he tip, That will come in handy when I break into soft hackles like you have posted. I also like you used the term flymph. Don't hear a lot of guys using that term.

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Re: Peeping Caddis pattern.

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Eric Stroup tying peeking caddis


http://s870.photobucket.com/user/hbha ... ddis_zps11205d78.mp4.html
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Re: Peeping Caddis pattern.

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If anyone would like to see the video ,pm me and give me your email address ,and I will email the video to you

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This is something I've been doing for years, since I was shown. Instead of tossing the cut off material from flies keep a gallon size Ziploc bag handy and toss it in there. This includes any synthetics but end of hackle whatever. Once you've amassed enough put it in a dubbing loop run it up the hook, trim to your liking. Have the little guy peeking out with some legs and your good.

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Mike, a good general rule is for the soft hackle to extend to the bend of the hook, but a little shorter or a little longer never hurt a soul.

Here's a picture of a march brown flymph I just tied

Click to see original Image in a new window



My cased caddis pattern is just peacock wrapped the whole length of the shank with a few turns of hungarian partridge at the eye. It works.

Nice looking tie Brian.

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When I tied these I would find empty cases or extract the caddis out and then spray with adhesive.
Easy way to get a case.

Turkey tail wrapped like a PT looks a lot like a wood pulp case too.

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