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Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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No, wish I did. Did he use dye?

Posted on: 2009/12/17 9:57


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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sundrunk wrote:
No, wish I did. Did he use dye?


Don't think so.
And his necks were really as good as any others that I've ever used.

Posted on: 2009/12/17 10:24


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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Was he an older gentleman? Small farms are the best..Birds are natural too..Collins dye's black and olive..Olive is nice..

Posted on: 2009/12/17 10:36


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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I'd say he was prolly about the same age as me - mid '50's now.
And it was definitely a small operation.
I thought at first, that maybe it was that Collins hackle that was previously posted. But I see that they're from the Elmira area of NY. And, for some reason, I definitely remember this guy telling me that he was from Cortland. Of course, he could have moved.

Posted on: 2009/12/17 10:54


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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I thought Collins at first too, I know he use to do that kind of stuff..Now he has another person run all over the place for him..Last year at Somerset they had a booth full of lower grade Collins...20. bucks..That's where I picked up that olive..May try a turn or two of in my grndrake duns next year..Good for olive bodies too..

Dryfly,
You ever work with kapok..I hear it's a perfect match for drake spinner bodies (white)..I'm considering getting some in bulk and dying off different colors with it.,,Supposed to float like no other (plantfiber) go figure/..

Posted on: 2009/12/17 11:07


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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I bought a pack of kapok when I took my tying class in 1984. We used it for cahill bodies I think that my instructor told me that it was the same materiel used in life vests?
Anyway, it's light tan in color. Has a nice fine texture, and is easy to work with.
It's not quite as chalk white as coffin fly bodies are, but it would probably work OK

Posted on: 2009/12/17 11:16


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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Yes, natural kapok would be perfect for cahills. Bleached kapok ideal for drake spinner bodies?
How did it float? Can you recall performance factor?

Posted on: 2009/12/17 11:31


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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I dunk all of my flies in home made floatant, and really never have any floating problems anyway. So, can't honestly say that it's superior to anything else. But, if you find a buy on it, I would get it. And, yes, I'm sure you could probably bleach it for coffins

Posted on: 2009/12/17 11:44


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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Home made floatant" paraffin?

Posted on: 2009/12/17 11:48


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No, I mix mucilin paste with lighter fluid. Got the idea from George Harvey's book

Posted on: 2009/12/17 11:53


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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dryflyguy wrote:
I bought a pack of kapok when I took my tying class in 1984. We used it for cahill bodies I think that my instructor told me that it was the same materiel used in life vests?
Anyway, it's light tan in color. Has a nice fine texture, and is easy to work with.
It's not quite as chalk white as coffin fly bodies are, but it would probably work OK




Light tan color, maybe it was the dun and not the spinner for the natural match..That tanish color might be ideal for the dun body..

I know, nobody fishes drake duns?" I like fishing green drake duns because ever one says it's not worth it.."Not worth while", gotta be kidding..What's better then throwing green drake duns on 4x..Day time action..

Was going to ask you how kapok was to tye with? Closer to rabbit or poly?

Posted on: 2009/12/17 11:56


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I have seen more fish eating duns than spinners during GD hatches.

Posted on: 2009/12/17 14:06


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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Do you throw GD, dun patterns, at them?

Posted on: 2009/12/17 15:56


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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dryflyguy........gonna have to try that mucilin and lighter fluid thing , i like foolin around with stuff , never read that one , will i burst into flames at some point?

Posted on: 2009/12/18 6:44


Re: Hackles, capes, saddles etc

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Sundrunk -

That kapok is like tying with fine fir.

And I've caught plenty of fish in penns on green drake duns


Osprey -

I've been using that lighter fluid mixture for over 10 - 15 years now, and haven't had an explosion yet. But I don't smoke either!
If you make it, you want to get the mucilin in the red container - it doesn't have silicone in it. Ol George specifically said to use that in the book.
I use an old Orvis superfloat bottle. Fill with lighter fluid, and put in 3-4 nice dabs of the mucilin. Stir and shake to mix it well. Should have a cloudy appearance if you have enough paste in it.

I dunk my flies in it right after I tie them on. After a few false casts, it's completely dry, and ready to go

Posted on: 2009/12/18 10:59



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