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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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sure i may make it to the jam by 9 or 930 friday night ill be leaving right after work

i dont drink much so theres a good chance ill be sober enough lol

Posted on: 2010/5/4 16:52


Re: Green drake comments requested.

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hey flip , its supposed to coll down next week , it will delay the sulfurs probably but make sure u have sulfurs nymphs size 16 or pt in size 16

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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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im tying those too i hope i have the color right

Posted on: 2010/5/5 6:25
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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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flipster - maybe this will help for the color:

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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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I think it's interesting the difference in the naturals that both redrockgrizzly and David posted. Redrock's is more tan on the belly and dark brown on top, while David's is def green, especially up against his hat... now which one is it??? lol

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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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Like anything, it varies. The green background in David's picture probably tricks your eyes a bit.

They definitely vary in different streams. The underside is all that matters, though, and it ain't green.

Posted on: 2010/5/5 10:06


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For GD duns, Jonas uses light olive dubbing whereas FFP uses Sulfur dubbing. They are selling for the same streams. Jonas' works for me, so I haven't used the FFP ties, but I'm betting they work as well.

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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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Green drake duns I like are traditional hackled flies. When the green duns hatch they are big, wobbly bugs that flop all over like a new born colt trying to stand up. I think an old school hackled fly gets that look better than one of the newer style patterns that floats flush. My opinion is different for sulphurs.

I'm also in the make them in a yellowish rather than pale olive color camp. The side that the trout sees looks light yellow to me. Then again, color is probably secondary to size and shape.

My final comment on the duns is that in my experience the trout hammer the nymphs and then take a siesta until the spinners drop leaving the duns largely alone. Often when the drakes are hatching I have found them to hit better on the sulphurs they have got used to eating for a couple of weeks. Some say the green drake duns are"all show and no go", but they are worth a shot. While I have gotten some on the drakes, the epic fishing I have had is on the coffin flies well after dark.

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I'm also in the make them in a yellowish rather than pale olive color camp. The side that the trout sees looks light yellow to me.


Have you ever dunked your head under the water and looked up at the underside of a GD natural?

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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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Have you ever dunked your head under the water and looked up at the underside of a GD natural?


Not on purpose.

I draw the line at taking pictures of bugs above the water's surface. That's about as nerdy as I'm willing to go.

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Posted on: 2010/5/5 17:55


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Here's my first attempt at tying a coffin fly. Let me know what you guys think.






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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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Looks good. I don't even bother with the wing material.,.. just use the big hackle...Clip top and bottom and they work great. Nice fly.

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That's about as nerdy as I'm willing to go.


You can be yourself here, you're among friends.

Posted on: 2010/5/6 0:31


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Mike, that's an excellent coffin fly! Since you are using a hackle for additional support, consider cutting down of the antron winging material, but spread it a little at the tie-down point where you figure-8 wrap to make it a little wider, but more "airy."

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Re: Green drake comments requested.

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goodfortune wrote:
Here's my first attempt at tying a coffin fly. Let me know what you guys think


Here's something that you might find useful:

Take a needle and put a TINY drop of superglue at the base of each wing. It helps the wings stay in position, but don't put too much on, or it will run up the wing by capillary action and make it stiff.

Nice fly, Mike!

Posted on: 2010/5/6 20:20



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