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Salmon River

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I'll initiate the new (old) forum.


I know there are people planning trips and people asking about info on here, so lets get it started!

We're staying at the Rainbow Shores Campground again this year. Great place, close to the DSR, and cheap (around $37 a person a night after taxes and fees).

http://www.rainbowshorescampsite.com/


DSR

http://www.douglastonsalmonrun.com/Fishing

Fishing license

https://nyfgisales.appsolgrp.com/fgnyia/html/index.jsp

9-10wt for kings, 8wt for all other should be fine.

Bring lots of split shot, you'll use it up and NY doesn't sell lead.

Swivels are a must. 4ft max distance from hook to weight. Helps show that length if you're questioned and also all foul hooks or break offs happen at the swivel. Plus leave a tag end for your shot.

Flies

Estaz, stoneflies, streamers should do.

That's all I got. Feel free to add to it.


Posted on: 2012/8/22 14:03
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Re: Salmon River

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Stockie River you mean

Posted on: 2012/8/22 21:46
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The last biologists report I read had 40% of the kings being wild. Probably similar numbers for steelies and wild Atlantics have started showing up after a long, hard effort at reintroduction. The new summer releases have increased the number of wild fish in the Salmon R and it is not just a stockie river. The river is paved with eggs - some have to hatch.

BTW, I used to be a Salmon Heaven guy - can walk down to the river in Altmar, but I've been heading to Fox Hollow more often lately.

The upper reservoir is pretty low, so that area needs some rain for early season flows.

Posted on: 2012/8/23 9:06


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I'm going up to fish this for the first time later on this year, already got glo bugs, sucker spawn, wooly buggers, and a few prince/ stonefly nymphs tied. What else should I be tying, specifically to target salmon?

Posted on: 2012/8/23 15:23


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This is going to be controversial. I'll start with cohoes - they take any of those flies, but red seems to be a good color. Steelie/salmon wets with a red/black theme have worked for me. Fresh cohoes are aggressive and if you run into a pod of them you will have a blast.

The kings and flies thing gets a little a hairier. They hit flies when they are real fresh, especially down river. One of those you got to be there things. After they spawn, they get aggressive again. However, they are half dead skeletons at this time and break off any one you hit - they stink if you get a hold of them. In between is the controversial time when the kings are focused on spawning and not hitting. I think most fish hooked at this time are "flossed", but I imagine some are fair hook-ups - I've had a few kings grab my fly when fishing for other things. . However, IMHO you are playing a low odds game when they are spawning.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I think fresh cohoes are one of the most sporting fish going, and kings are more work than they are worth. They are definately a better fish when fresh and dime bright, but the gray "mud sharks" are a PITA. Your mileage may vary.

Posted on: 2012/8/23 15:55


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Pretty much agree with what Jeff said. The coho's are wild when first entering he river. That's why I shell out the money for the DSR. Also have had some nice catches on fresh kings down there. Never thought I would biotch about hooking a 20lb. fish, but when fishing for browns and steel, the last thing you want is to hook a king before the fly drifts thru to the trout.........been going up for 25+ years and it never gets old..........can't wait.......

Posted on: 2012/8/23 21:09


Re: Salmon River

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I probably could have gone the whole trip last year with black egg sucking leeches with an orange lead head, and red estaz. That said I still have about 20 other patterns I'm bringing with me this year.

Posted on: 2012/8/24 13:33
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You guys ever catch them on dries? I was reading about catching salmon on dries the other day, and it made me drool.

Posted on: 2012/8/24 13:36


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pacific salmon or Atlantic SAS

Posted on: 2012/8/24 15:45
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Re: Salmon River

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Is that a question, or a statement, Pete?

I'm actually not sure. It was a chapter in "The Masters on the Dry Fly" that Lee Wulff wrote.

Posted on: 2012/8/24 16:01


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atlantics [wullf]-pacifics may take dries but never heard of it.

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Re: Salmon River

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I haven't fished for either, but if I can catch them on dries, my interest in going for them has spiked.

Posted on: 2012/8/24 16:15


Re: Salmon River

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pacifics take dries in alaska, they use a pink polywog fly...havn't heard of one heare yet, though I don't know why not...wulff used his wulff flies for atlantics and they will hit bombers as well. waking flies are great foe atlantics..

Posted on: 2012/8/24 16:51
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Been fishing the SR for 30 yrs.In the beginning I was like everyone else believing the Kings won't hit.After a year of snagging I was shown by others that they do hit.....if you actually fish for them.Any way I now concentrate most of my time on the river up as far as you can go and have many days that they wear me out,then there are those days that it's hard to get any players....that's fishing.Catch them on streamers,wooly buggers,glo bugs,estaz,nympths,and others in various colors.Sometimes color is very important and then there are those days they hit all colors.
If they don't get rain soon this will be a horrible year and I might cancel.It'll be very depressing to do that as it's something I look forward to but I remember a couple years ago when it was this dry and I really hated it.

Posted on: 2012/8/24 21:35


Re: Salmon River

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fished the SR 30 years ago, would rather fish western NY waters for wild steel !!!

Posted on: 2012/8/25 7:30
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