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Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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They had excess water coming in the reservoir for the past 2 weeks, at one point the outflow was at 3000cfs, they kept releasing high flow levels until things were almost back to normal (meaning inflow equals outflow with storage at 1370) and then they released 750cfs for the white water release this weekend, dropping it way down to 250cfs at 1pm. This is the beginning of the warmest part of the day while we are currently have the warmest weather so far this year.

This created dramatic water temperature spikes, not very good water management if you ask me. They had excess water fully knowing there was going to be a white water release and no major precipitation in the forecast. Now the reservoir level is below normal pool and they are holding back water.

Absolutely no regard for the trout, shameless.

Posted on: 2013/6/24 16:33


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Do you guys see any river otters on the Lehigh? I haven't, but I believe someone was studying them there, or trying to find evidence of them in the area for a dna database.

Posted on: 2013/6/24 16:58


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HD. The corps is very regimented. Anything above 1370 is encroachment into flood control. Any water above that major number is evacuated as quickly as possible.

However I completely agree with you. Until there are some operational changes implemented in addition to what was previously stated will the trout be considered.

Beast. I have never seen a river otter. I saw a beaver a few years ago but have not seen one since.

Posted on: 2013/6/24 22:07


Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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By they way. Chaz is 100% correct. However we need to convince some of the players within the Pfbc too. Tell them you want a better fishery and cold water all summer long. Right now those disbelievers don't think the anglers care about this trout fishery enough to pursue the changes that will be scientifically documented in the Coldwater Study.

Posted on: 2013/6/24 22:11


Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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Do you guys see any river otters on the Lehigh? I haven't, but I believe someone was studying them there, or trying to find evidence of them in the area for a dna database.


Oddly enough I just saw one in the river in Allentown near Adam's Island.

Posted on: 2013/6/25 8:40


Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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First and foremost, the dam is for flood control. Rafting / fishing are simply by products. The cold water pool is managed horribly though. I'm waiting for PFBC to follow through and start Raystown as a bottom released cold water fishery. I'm thinking it has the potential to match or surpass the Delaware for hatches and fish size. Come on gubment, get off your a$$ and lets get cracking. I want to fish it before I'm 70.

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Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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Welp, a stated secondary purpose of the project is recreation. This for years has mainly meant the inlake fishery and the downstream rafting interests. Just lately, within the last 10 years or so since the road was moved there has been more priority than ever before on the downstream fishery - because water CAN be stored up to the 15% encroachment of the flood storage without inundating that stupid road.

Regardless, management of that reservoir imo can no doubt be better. And honestly that needs to come from the anglers who for lack of a better phrase need to b!tch and moan, so that the PFBC can make recommendations. The Corps won't listen to a non profit, but have said they will take instructions from the PFBC.

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Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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The cold water pool is managed horribly though


Krayfish - the Corps is very limited in how they can manage the coldwater pool.

The majority of the water being released has to come off the bottom. There is a small gate that can discharge about 300 cfs above the big bottom flood gates. But that doesn't really help in regulating water temps for an extended period of time.

So when there are big releases of water for flood control and whitewater rafting, the bottom flood gates are opened and guess where all the coldwater goes?? Down into the Delaware. Once the coldwater is gone, its gone for the summer until inflow water temperatures drop in the Fall.

The FEW reservoir is antiquated and needs to be upgraded to meet todays recreational demands. As VC said, this really needs to be spearheaded by the PFBC. But the PFBC won't do anything unless anglers "ask" their local commissioners or AFMs (like Mike K, et al). Dave Arnold is the AFM for the FEW Reservoir.

This also goes for other large reservoirs, like Raystown, Beltzville, etc.

Posted on: 2013/6/25 10:27


Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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This is the time of year that you can expect a heart breaker...the temps are slowing creeping up, after another white water or flood release it will likely spike and be done until September

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I thought they had top, middle and bottom gates at FEW. Guess not. It's like a much better version of the Tully. Cold water I'd gone by mid-late June. At least the Lehigh has some thermal refuge from feeders, sting seepage and the PO.

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Are river otters protected at all, where do these things birth their pups. I doubt they like to get drowned if it's in banks of the river after a raft release. Maybe that is why I don't see more down there, because I know they are in Red Rock, so if someone is seeing them down in Allentown, maybe they don't like the fluctuations on the Lehigh for offspring?

Those seeps are what have allowed most of us to experience trout year round in the upper Gorge, some of the seeps are whole mountain sides of water, which is probably the result of the protected sgls and state parks that run above and throughout the Gorge. A lot of big seeps that I only found from doing some not so safe explorin.

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Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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beast

the problem is you can only jam so many trout into those spring seeps which also leads to added stress, predation (man & natural) and spread of disease because the fish are so close together.

If the river (or a significant portion of the river) was kept cool all summer long, can you imagine the numbers of trout that may be in there to catch?

Posted on: 2013/6/26 8:26


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the problem is you can only jam so many trout into those spring seeps which also leads to added stress, predation (man & natural) and spread of disease because the fish are so close together.

If the river (or a significant portion of the river) was kept cool all summer long, can you imagine the numbers of trout that may be in there to catch?


I hear ya, if that water was cooled with added dam depth we would be looking at a tremendous density of browns and a lot more brookies of great size in my opinion. I have caught some large native brookies > 13" as is.

There is a lot of good food right now, hellgramites, golden stones, chubs, suckers, lotta ant sand mounds dumping them in. I dunno know if cooler water would benefit some other types of shiners or not, but who knows.

And, of course, the access is pretty phenomenal even above the bike trail in White Haven.

Posted on: 2013/6/26 23:40


Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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Anyone know if there is a gage that shows the pool level?

I'm trying to figure out what will happen this weekend...somehow it will end up being a blow out if its a time when I can fish

Posted on: 2013/6/28 21:46


Re: FEW Lehigh dam capacity question for those who may know

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To find the dam pool, google few dam level. Scroll down to ptd.net lehigh and it will be on a link.

Will not be fishable this weekend due to inflow of 1200+ as of this writing.

Posted on: 2013/6/29 0:47



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