Register now on PaFlyFish.com! Login
HOME FORUM BLOG PHOTOS LINKS


Sponsors

Browsing this Thread:   1 Anonymous Users



« 1 2 (3)


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2006/9/10 21:53
From Greensburg, PA
Posts: 13614
Offline
If they are accurate. I have seen more Texas plate than in the rest of my whole life.

Posted on: 2011/7/4 23:21


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2009/5/29 6:40
From harlansburg
Posts: 4369
Offline
your right Tom, lots of texas plates around me now. big white trucks driving 70 mph everywhere. I see Oklahoma plates also.
we're seriously considering selling before the drilling gets too close, but it may be too late. I'm very scared of property values dropping and being stuck here forever or having to just dump the place for a bargain price and count our losses just to get away from it all.

Posted on: 2011/7/5 6:57


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2009/4/6 22:31
Posts: 327
Offline
Ryan,

Where do you get your stats? I would like proof.

Also, if you subtract the state government jobs from that total, how many "regular" citizens are left and how much lower is the average salary. I bet if you remove the huge kickbacks Corbet is (allegedly) getting the average is significantly lower.

The only PA resident jobs I hear about around here are truck drivers and unskilled labor. Those TX and OK plates belong to the skilled employees.

Posted on: 2011/7/5 7:55
_________________
We did not inherit the land from our fathers, we are borrowing from our children.


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2009/4/4 8:58
From Reading
Posts: 600
Offline
I would love to see where those stats came from as well! Pa only added around 65,000 jobs in 2010 statewide..... Sounds like big oil and gas propoganda. Just sayin.

Posted on: 2011/7/5 9:15


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2009/2/10 16:30
From SE PA
Posts: 4498
Offline
From Pa Dept of Labor and Industry on Gas Drilling


Wages (2010 Q1 to 2010 Q4):
• The average wage across all industries was $45,747
• The average wage in the core industries was $73,150, which was about $27,400
greater than the average for all industries
• The average wage in the ancillary industries was $61,871, which was more than
$16,100 greater than the average for all industries


Unemployment Rate:
• Areas with significant Marcellus Shale drilling activity have seen notable
decreases in unemployment rates
• From March 2009 to March 2011, the overall unemployment rate for counties
with:
? 10 or more wells drilled in 2010 dropped from 7.7 to 7.1 (-0.6
percentage points)
? 1 to 9 wells drilled in 2010 increased slightly from 7.1 to 7.2 (+0.1
percentage point)
? no wells drilled in 2010 remained the same at 7.6


New Hires (2009 Q4 to 2011 Q1):
• 72,000 new hires were reported within the Marcellus Shale core and ancillary
industries (the increase from the 48,000 new hires reported in the last edition of
the Marcellus Shale Fast Facts is entirely due to the addition of nine industries in
the ancillary group and the inclusion of government employment)

The new hires number does get inflated due to seasonal churn.

Posted on: 2011/7/5 9:17


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2006/9/9 22:44
Posts: 701
Offline
Jobs.... Who do you believe?

Marcellus Jobs

Posted on: 2011/7/5 9:25


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2007/4/25 10:02
Posts: 5757
Offline
I agree 100% that the gas/energy indusrty is not good for fishing. However; to beleive that nothing good comes from it is misguided as far as most PA residents are concerned.

They are building a $450 million dollar gas pipe plant along the Ohio river currently.

Just saw this in the paper this morning:


The state Department of Environmental Protection has approved a Washington County company's air-quality permit to build a $150 million natural gas-fired electric power plant at a giant coal refuse pile in Robinson.

It is the same site where the company, Robinson Power Co. LLC, wants to revive plans for a controversial coal-burning plant to generate electricity.

The gas-fired turbine and a heat recovery steam generator would create a combined total of 147.8 megawatts of power. Construction of the natural gas-fired plant could begin by the end of 2011 and be completed within two years.

Natural gas from Marcellus shale reserves that is piped near the 400-acre coal refuse pile would be used to fuel the generating plant.



Read more: State issues air-quality permit for coal refuse power plant - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitts ... 745195.html#ixzz1REkTEpQr

Posted on: 2011/7/5 9:26
_________________
I flyfish because I enjoy it.


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2009/2/10 16:30
From SE PA
Posts: 4498
Offline
Quote:

vcregular wrote:
Jobs.... Who do you believe?

Marcellus Jobs


I reviewed KRC's analysis. They over estimate the churn by several hundred percent. Using their approach the MS industry would have had a large number of employment five years ago. Common sense says that there has been a large pickup in the past two years. Look at the increased truck traffic, the increased road work and pad construction, and other impacts. If it wasn't picking up you would not have all the people complaining.

Posted on: 2011/7/5 9:31


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2009/2/10 16:30
From SE PA
Posts: 4498
Offline
Mods may want to move this to Conservation section at some point so it is grouped with related threads.

Posted on: 2011/7/5 9:45


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2010/6/30 14:13
From Lehighton, PA
Posts: 1319
Offline
Flyswatter,

It was from a Pennsylvania Department of Labor report in May, as reported in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette or maybe the Tribune and other newspapers I believe. I actually saw it in a copy of the latest Pennsylvania Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs publication, they mentioned the it originally appeared in the other papers.

Jobs are jobs my friend and residents are residents. I have no idea what you mean by "regular" citizens?


Posted on: 2011/7/5 11:02
_________________
Hunt, Fish, Vote. Anger the liberals- work hard, enjoy life, and don't expect the government to provide everything for you.


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!
Moderator
Joined:
2006/9/9 17:32
From Gettysburg
Posts: 8661
Offline
Quote:

franklin wrote:
Mods may want to move this to Conservation section at some point so it is grouped with related threads.


Planning on it. I move several threads every day. These are usually stream threads posted in the General Forum which are moved over to Stream Locations. However, while the thread is still "hot" I'd prefer to leave it where it is. After it drops down a ways and hasn't been refreshed, I'll move it to a more precise forum.
Dave W

Edit: Moved and merged.

Posted on: 2011/7/5 11:07

Edited by Fishidiot on 2011/7/9 4:41:23


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2008/1/31 17:19
From Pretty much everywhere at some point, Thorndale today.
Posts: 12919
Offline
Quote:
I can't believe one would complain about windmills versus well pads and all the environmental impacts of same.


FWIW, I do like wind.

But, you can't compare the impact of 1 windmill to 1 gas well. If you're comparing impacts, the amount of energy produced has to be even. I'll have to do the math sometime, but as a first approximation its several dozen windmills vs. 1 gas well.

Posted on: 2011/7/9 23:44


Re: WTF Exxon!!!!!

Joined:
2009/5/29 16:32
From Nicholson PA
Posts: 199
Offline
And people think im to strong,Already have a pipe line and getting wells on both side of my land.You people cant even understand,The basic deal(TAKE THE MONEY OR DEAL WITH ALL THE KRAP FOR NOTHING) Melvin p wyoming county Current lease offering 4000.00 an acre and 15-20%.And if you already sighed to BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.WTF

Posted on: 2011/7/11 16:57



« 1 2 (3)



You can view topic.
You cannot start a new topic.
You cannot reply to posts.
You cannot edit your posts.
You cannot delete your posts.
You cannot add new polls.
You cannot vote in polls.
You cannot attach files to posts.
You cannot post without approval.

[Advanced Search]





Site Content
Login
Username:

Password:

Remember me



Lost Password?

Register now!
Stay Connected

twitterfeed.com facebook instagram RSS Feed

Sponsors
Polls
What kind of streams do you primarily fish?
Approved Trout Waters (Stocked Fish)
Class A Wild Trout Streams
Special Regulation Areas
Wilderness Trout Streams
No Preference All Trout Streams
54 total votes!
The poll will close at 2014/4/30 15:00
2 Comments
USGS Water Levels





Copyright 2014 by PaFlyFish.com | Privacy Policy| Provided by Kile Media Group | Design by 7dana.com