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I caught this babe in small Mingo Creek, Allegheny Co. where trout can’t survive the winter. They did stock this creek in May. Do you think this its hatchery trout?

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Yes.

Posted on: 2011/6/12 12:17


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Prolly a fingerling that escaped.

Posted on: 2011/6/12 19:04
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Tough to tell at that size, but it certainly could be stocked.

Ask yourself which is more likely, that rainbows are reproducing in said stream, a fingerling got mixed in with a batch of stockies, or an area (even if on a different stream) upstream or down is stocked with fingerlings.

Posted on: 2011/6/12 20:31


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I agree with Pcray.

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Looks kinda like a wild bow. But a escaped fingerling is more likely.

Posted on: 2011/6/14 21:12
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Cant survive the winter? I'm unfamiliar with this. Could you explain? Does it somehow freeze solid?

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Cant survive the winter? I'm unfamiliar with this. Could you explain? Does it somehow freeze solid?


i was wondering the same thing. I would think there wouldnt be a fishable population of trout if they didn't survive the winter. The state wouldnt stock trout in a section of stream where they would die.

Posted on: 2011/6/17 11:13


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Sorry Marv, but the state stocks LOTS of streams where the fish die. Hence put and take. Many streams get too warm for the trout that the state stock in it to survive. That's why they have to stock it every year. Even your FFO, and DHALO sections are stocked every year because of die off. The question at hand is whether this stream is not able to hold fish all year round due to the winter conditions. It's very common for fish to not survive the summer, but the winter is unusual.

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Sorry Marv, but the state stocks LOTS of streams where the fish die. Hence put and take. Many streams get too warm for the trout that the state stock in it to survive. That's why they have to stock it every year. Even your FFO, and DHALO sections are stocked every year because of die off. The question at hand is whether this stream is not able to hold fish all year round due to the winter conditions. It's very common for fish to not survive the summer, but the winter is unusual.


if thats true thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Talk about wasting money and killing fish for no reason.

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It's very true. And most of us believe they should ONLY stock fish in streams where they're going to die anyway, or at least that we should go more in that direction. Reason being, if the fish were going to survive, then there's probably wild fish present, and no need to stock it. Stocking exists to supply a seasonal trout fishery where one does not exist naturally.

But yeah, I accept that there are exceptions to every rule, but for the most part its the summer, not the winter, thats the critical period.

Posted on: 2011/6/20 9:00


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Not to really change the subject but its kinda about the surviving the winter thing.

From my understanding a holdover trout is a stocked fish that survives through the summer. But I was looking in this one book and it said a holdover was a fish that lived through the winter. Which is true?

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I think when we say "holdover" it's a fish that has lasted a whole calendar year since stocking. You can't really tell all the time, but they gain certain characteristics after they're in a stream for a long period of time.

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I'm more interested in how well that indicator casts? lol/jk

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Mingo holds no wild trout and the chance of a holdover is very slim. Mingo creek gets in the upper 80's in the summer. I grew up about 10 minutes from there.

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