Register now on PaFlyFish.com! Login
HOME FORUM BLOG PHOTOS LINKS


Sponsors

Browsing this Thread:   1 Anonymous Users



(1) 2 »


Poaching?

Joined:
2012/3/7 11:01
From Downingtown
Posts: 87
Offline
Now that got your attention. Now lets establish this fact: I DO NOT POACH.

However, some of my friends have seen pictures of fish that I've caught and said "Wow man, that fish is sweet! Did you keep it?" And this time of year, my reply is - "Nope, caught it in the DHALO section of the creek". To which they usually reply "Wow dude...I would have kept it anyway for something like that".

Now here is the question - What exactly is the penalty for taking fish outside of regs?

Everytime I try to research just what the penalty would be for taking fish outside of regulations, all I get are articles on deer. Aside from the moral issues and considerations for preserving the natural habitat, etc. - legally, what are we dealing with here?

Posted on: 2012/3/15 9:58


Re: Poaching?
Moderator
Joined:
2006/9/9 17:32
From Gettysburg
Posts: 7560
Offline
Jimbo,
I honestly don't know. My guess would be that the fine would somehow correlate with how many fish one illegally possesed? Perhaps $25-35 per fish? I'd imagine that much of the time there are multiple infractions: no license, no PFD etc and that the WCO may have some leeway in how to calculate the fine.
I don't know.

Posted on: 2012/3/15 12:09


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2010/8/13 13:35
From Camp Hill
Posts: 79
Offline
I can only assume it's the same as the per fish fine stated here.

Q & A
Penalties for Fishing without a License
Question
What are the penalties for fishing without a license?
Answer
The Fish and Boat Commission takes the offense of fishing without a license (also known as poaching) very seriously.
The base fine for fishing without a license is currently (2008) set at $50. An amount equal to two times the cost of the required license and permit is added to the base fine.

A violator also may be sentenced to pay an additional fine of $20 per fish taken illegally.

Fishing without a license is the single most prosecuted fishing offense under the Fish and Boat Code.

Poaching fish from Pennsylvania waters is a little like shoplifting: Poachers are prosecuted. The simple message is this: If you want to enjoy all the wonders of fishing in the waters of the Commonwealth, buy a fishing license. The cost is modest; the benefits are great. If you fish without a license, you will face penalties that far exceed the modest cost of a fishing license.

You Poach...You Pay!!

http://fishandboat.com/images/pages/qa/fish_regs/poach.htm

Posted on: 2012/3/15 13:02


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2012/3/7 11:01
From Downingtown
Posts: 87
Offline
I would assume the same, it would definitely make sense for the fine to correlate to how many fish you would have in your posession. It also makes me wonder just what you would have to do (or how little you would have to do) to get your license yanked.

Posted on: 2012/3/15 13:10


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2012/3/7 11:01
From Downingtown
Posts: 87
Offline
Swanson - sorry for the overpost, didn't see your post in the time it took me to reply. Good info, thanks!

Posted on: 2012/3/15 13:22


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2006/9/11 13:05
From Lewistown
Posts: 3498
Offline
BTW, replica mounts are about the same price as skin mounts. Always put the fish back and take a couple pictures and good measurments.

However, to me, a framed picture is way classier than a mount, and a fraction of the cost.

Posted on: 2012/3/15 14:08
_________________
><(Mkern{( ‘ >


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2011/6/29 9:38
From Philadelphia
Posts: 1745
Offline
Somehow I remember reading somewhere that not only is there a fine but loss of fishing privledges for a period of time. Maybe Mike could weigh in here.

Posted on: 2012/3/15 14:29


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2010/11/2 21:16
Posts: 328
Offline
This is from the PFBC website on the Unlawful acts page:

IF A VIOLATION OCCURS...
Persons accused of violating the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Code or rules and regulations may be issued a citation and have a right to a hearing before a district justice. Law enforcement personnel have the authority to confiscate or seize as evidence fish and fishing equipment that are illegal or used to violate fishing laws or regulations. The Pennsylvania Fish & Boat Commission may, upon proper notice, suspend or revoke the fishing privileges, boating privileges or other permits of any person convicted (or acknowledging guilt) of a violation of the Fish and Boat Code or Fish & Boat Commission regulations.

If you have been convicted of or plead guilty to a second or subsequent violation within a 12-month period, you may be assessed an additional fine of $200 for those offenses classified as summary offenses.

Posted on: 2012/3/15 14:37


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2006/9/9 17:18
From lancaster county
Posts: 6180
Offline
That's it?

No wonder people don't care. Not stiff enough.

Posted on: 2012/3/15 21:19
_________________
http://cvtu.homestead.com/





Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2010/6/19 16:43
From Clinton County, Pa.
Posts: 1586
Offline
Quote:

MKern wrote:
BTW, replica mounts are about the same price as skin mounts. Always put the fish back and take a couple pictures and good measurments.

However, to me, a framed picture is way classier than a mount, and a fraction of the cost.
I agree 100%. The photo in my Avatar is also a double matted 8x10 mounted in a very nice frame. It's in my man cave. The wild tiger trout was released unharmed.

Posted on: 2012/3/15 21:39
_________________
"Even the thousandth trip to the same familiar stream begins with renewed hope and unfailing faith." ZANE GREY


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2011/1/15 18:21
Posts: 421
Offline
Quote:

salvelinusfontinalis wrote:
That's it?

No wonder people don't care. Not stiff enough.


Totally agree. $20? Pssh wow...I spend more in gas to get to a stream.

Depends on the section that you were in, but why keep the fish? I dont see much accomplishment in catching a big stocker that is a 2week resident of the stream. No doubt the catch was fun, but something you want to memorialize in your home for 20 years? Not me.

Posted on: 2012/3/16 13:19


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2012/2/3 16:30
From Clarion co.
Posts: 256
Offline
This is a littlle off the mark, but that old mind set of having to keep every nice fish just plain pisses me off. Why do people feel the urge to kill something rare and beautifull. Take a picture to put on the wall, let the fish go, everybody wins.

Posted on: 2012/3/16 23:35
_________________
He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2006/9/13 10:18
From LV
Posts: 5949
Offline
They will also take your gear.

Posted on: 2012/3/22 22:26
_________________
"Completely random idiotic rants, on the other hand, get you absolutely nowhere."pcray


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2012/2/24 7:16
From camp hill, pa
Posts: 70
Offline
I agree with Cornholio....Having to keep the fish all the time is stupid. The same goes for deer hunting...at least to me. When I was growing up my father had a construction business. My dad and brothers shot doe in doe season....but we depended on the meat to survive over the winter. Up where we hunt my cousins all go out and kill every doe they see and complain the rest of the year that there are no deer to hunt. The same goes here. Being a good steward of the resources says to take only what you need. Enjoy catching the fish...byt put him back so that he'll be there to catch again.

Posted on: 2012/3/23 5:32


Re: Poaching?

Joined:
2008/1/31 17:19
From Pretty much everywhere at some point, Thorndale today.
Posts: 10690
Online
I know someone who's daughter just got a citation for fishing without a license. It was her first and only cast EVER.

She was at a stream with her bf, she was not fishing, but her bf was fly fishing (and properly licensed to do so). She got interested and he handed her the rod to let her take a cast. The WCO was on them before she finished a single cast.

At least that's the story I got. I do realize it's the story a teenager told her mother, though. If fully accurate, I said it's probably a little over the top on the WCO's part, and they may have ultimately lost a fisherperson. But technically, yes, it was a violation.

Posted on: 2012/3/23 10:56



(1) 2 »



You can view topic.
You cannot start a new topic.
You cannot reply to posts.
You cannot edit your posts.
You cannot delete your posts.
You cannot add new polls.
You cannot vote in polls.
You cannot attach files to posts.
You cannot post without approval.

[Advanced Search]





Site Content
Login
Username:

Password:

Remember me



Lost Password?

Register now!
Stay Connected
Sponsors
Polls
Where do you hail?
North East 16% (73)
North Central 9% (43)
North West 9% (40)
South West 23% (105)
South Central 17% (79)
South East 23% (102)
442 total votes!
The poll closed at 2013/5/13 20:18
4 Comments





Copyright 2013 by PaFlyFish.com | Privacy Policy| Provided by Kile Media Group | Design by 7dana.com