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Never fly fished, looking for suggestions

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Good evening,

First off I'm not going to lie, I've been lurking around since the spring and I have to say that its probably the most civil and well spoken fishing websites out there.

Anyways, at this point I'm only a casual spin fishermen, and an inexperienced one for what its worth. I'd like to get into fly fishing, or at the very least like to give it a shot.

So I do have a few questions. Any input would help

1.) I kind have come up with an unproven theory that fly fishing opens up more opportunities in more smaller waters. Do you find that to be the case?

2.) For my first fly fishing trip, I'd like to try a guide/lesson somewhere out in the south central part of the state. Nothing fancy, but just a few hours on the basics and maybe running into a few fish. I saw at least a few of them listed on the site, but if anyone has a recommendation, I'd appreciate.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Posted on: 2013/10/24 21:39


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A guide is a good way to get started. The crash course will shorten the learning curve.

Posted on: 2013/10/24 22:28


Re: Never fly fished, looking for suggestions

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I've taught four people to fly fish this year. Every one of them caught fish on their first time out casting a fly rod on the stream. I have to say, I'm proud of that statistic.

Your idea of getting a guide sounds like a good idea to me. A guide that is a casting instructor would be a big help to someone just starting out. It would eliminate bad habits before they start.

I'd recommend these guys. http://www.covetedwaters.net/

Posted on: 2013/10/24 23:18
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Re: Never fly fished, looking for suggestions

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I missed your first question. I would say fly fishing opens up smaller waters. I know it opens up smaller fish. The smaller fish on a fly rod is still a treat.

I don't believe it specifically allows you to fish smaller waters, but when you fly fish you begin to see and appreciate the biotic community and its inner workings. This appreciation draws you to small streams, well that's how its worked for me.

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Edited by BrookieChaser on 2013/10/25 0:08:14
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Re: Never fly fished, looking for suggestions

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I was in your shoes in June of this year...then I asked for a fly rod for Father's Day and the rest is history. I would highly recommend hiring a guide/instructor to get started. It was recommended to me when I do and of course I didn't take the advise. Wish I had, my learning curve would have been much smoother and faster. Trust me...it's money well spent.

I recently went out with Mike Heck...he is a guide in the Chambersburg area. Great guy very knowledgeable and I learned a lot. Look him up and give him a call.

In terms of "opening up" smaller waters...I think the answer is a little bigger than that. Once you get into fly fishing, you will find a new appreciation for fishing! I used to be that typical fisherman...put on some bait and chuck in it. Now I find myself learning what the fish do, what the streams are made up of so I can tailor my approach and I think most important, I enjoy my time on the water much more. Even when I get skunked...and we all do, it's frustrating but it makes me think about whAt I need to do as opposed to just being pissed.

Classic example...was out w Mike and I caught my first Brookie. This little guy couldn't have been more than 6" and a not even a half pound...most beautiful fish I ever saw. This coupled with the fact I targeted the spot I caught him in in terms of approach fly selection and presentation....made all the effort very rewarding.

Hope that helps and welcome to the sport. Trust me, you won't ever regret it.


Posted on: 2013/10/25 8:02


Re: Never fly fished, looking for suggestions

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Bearski -

Regarding your first question - I'm not really sure what you mean by fly fishing opening up a lot more opportunities on small streams.
I think that fly fishing on small streams is tougher than using spinning gear - especially the ones that are really choked with trees and brush.
And it can get pretty frustrating - lots of time spent retrieving flies from branches. However, it is much more fun IMO - especially catching fish on dries. And well worth the challenge

When I start somebody new into the sport though, I always take them to larger, more open water. Much easier on them when they have lots of room to cast.

Welcome to the sport and good luck!


Posted on: 2013/10/25 9:47


Re: Never fly fished, looking for suggestions

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Thanks for all the input, gentlemen.

I've fished smaller waters, includuing native trout waters with spin equipment, but I guess I was speaking more towards shallower waters. My inexperience may be talking here, but I don't really understand how people fish places like Oil Creek or Laurel Hill or other similar spots with spin equipment. It just seems out of place. I could just be totally uneducated though.

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I've thought before that fly fishing allowed me to fish smaller streams better than spinning gear did. Of course, I never really mastered spin fishing - I did at casually, and then really started getting into fishing after getting a fly rod. I remember being really frustrated when I was fishing spinning gear, and a fish would rise near the bank in a shallowish pool. First of all, he's taking bugs on the surface, so my spinner seems a little silly. Plus it would be hard to cast a spinner close to the bank and not spook the fish.

I think a guide sounds like a smart idea if you have the money. I could've learned a lot faster if I had done that. Thus forum is a really great resource too! Lots of knowledgeable folks who are often willing to help you out. Also lots of great tips/advice in old threads if you browse through them.

I just bought a rod from a guy in this forum who has a guide service called undercurrent outfitters. I believe they guide on Spring creek, probably penns, and some of the other streams in central pa. Seemed like a nice guy, and the rod he sold me was in nice shape. Not sure if this is the area you're looking for, though.

Posted on: 2013/10/25 13:31


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I'm thinking that It would be a real nice gesture if someone from this forum could reach out to this gent and provide some training in this art. I live in Philly, so that puts me out of driving range I believe.


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Re: Never fly fished, looking for suggestions

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PennypackFlyer wrote:
I'm thinking that It would be a real nice gesture if someone from this forum could reach out to this gent and provide some training in this art.


Bearski, you have a PM.

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Shortrod, good on you!

If I was closer to Bearski's location I would have offered to help him get started in this art (to quote Pennypack).

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THANK YOU ShortRod2.. U the Flyer!

Posted on: 2013/11/7 9:26
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Re: Never fly fished, looking for suggestions

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I figured I should update everyone since I asked for some input. I ended up going out on the Yellow Breeches with a guide and enjoyed learning the basics of casting and the differences between the various flies.

The concepts seemed like a lot of fun but also a lot of work. I'm not sure if I have the time or desire to learn all the details of fly fishing. It might just be a first impression, but it seems a lot more confusing than spin fishing.

I do not trout fish very often, and I don't know if I will continue to fly fish in the future, but I'm definitely glad I gave it a shot.

Posted on: 2013/11/12 16:03


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Before you give up on it just make sure you take it in small bites. Don't feel like you need to learn everything about it at once, things will come as you go along. There are plenty of flies that will take trout all year long that you can just go out and fish and enjoy yourself. Yes there is quite a bit to get to know, just take it slow....

Posted on: 2013/11/12 17:47
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Bearski,

Don't become overwhelmed. It's easy in this sport especially when people toss around terms that don't make sense to a newbie. The truth is that you can take a rod, 3-4 patterns and catch a bunch of fish.

Don't give up so quickly. You can't play golf the first time and break par! I've been doing this for over 30 years and learn something new almost every time out.

Get out there and put your time in on the river. Soon, things that you've read start to make sense. You'll see hatches, spinnerfalls, fish chasing minnows or fighting for the best feeding spot. It's an experience with nature and it's not all about fish numbers. Get out there and enjoy it.

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