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Re: Fall Catskill JAM.....the final chaptet

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I used the dates of Thursday Oct 3 - Sunday Oct 6 as a general group of dates. Every year, I try to make it up on Wednesday so I can get things squared away for the group. Since Josh still has 4 1/2 weeks of vacation left, we've talked about heading up early. We have actually considered heading up Monday September 30th and just making a week of it. At the worst, I think we'll head up on Tuesday. I'll guess that the Yinzer caravan might make it a bit early too.


Martin,

The monster is 7600 yards. But... that is measured to the front of each green. The greens are 45-60 yards deep. I once calculated it to be somewhere around 8190 from the back tees to the center of each green. I do enjoy taking a beating on the course but if it's raining or standing water in the fairways, I'm not playing it all the way back. Last time we played, it was ponded water in each and every fairway. From 7000 yards, it seemed like 7 million yards. LMAO



Phil,

You need to find more friends that are already married. You have to pick up 3 part time jobs to pay for all the wedding gifts you're buying.

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Re: Fall Catskill JAM.....the final chaptet

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Ah geez, you guys golf? I dunno, I usually lean more towards the hunting and fishing crowd, golfers have a tendency to be real odd, lol.....

I'm interested, slate drakes come out in good numbers in the branches?

48 at Stilesville, 60 at Hale eddy(which Im getting is 5.9 ish miles to Stilesville), and 78 yesterday at Fish Eddy, which is 11 miles before the confluence of E and B, ouch.

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Re: Fall Catskill JAM.....the final chaptet

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The entire lower east is too warm to fish. The upper east is probably getting close to being too warm before it even gets to the Beaverkill. The west is freezing most of the summer. By the time mid-September rolls around, water temps should be good just about everywhere.

Do slate drakes hatch? Yes. How heavy? That question can be answered as you come off the river. You might see a bunch and the guy that's a mile away doesn't see any. There's enough bugs hatching in early fall to bring the fish up without being overwhelmed by huge numbers of bugs on the water. We are subject to wind, heavy rain, leaves on the water or any combination of that in the fall. Won't know until it's here. Fish will be brought to net though. That I am sure of.

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I fished the WB of the D this past weekend. As K-fish said, the EB is kinda warm and all but the first few miles of the MB is too warm. Anywhere along the WB is fishing well. The water temps are in the 40's and 50's, and right now you can catch trout anywhere there, depending on the day, the flow, the hatches and of course....the fish.

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I fished the WB of the D this past weekend. As K-fish said, the EB is kinda warm and all but the first few miles of the MB is too warm. Anywhere along the WB is fishing well. The water temps are in the 40's and 50's, and right now you can catch trout anywhere there, depending on the day, the flow, the hatches and of course....the fish.


How did you do? Float it or wade it?

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Floated Hale Eddy to Hancock with Surf Cowboy and his buddy. Caught a few, one pretty nice one. Almost no Iso's on the water, mostly sulpurs and Cahills in the afternoon. We left early, but the sulphurs usually hatch in the evening pretty well.

One thing to remember bugs hatch in one section, and for some reason do not hatch in others on any given day; so floating or moving around is usually your best plan of attack.

Good luck.

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Floated Hale Eddy to Hancock with Surf Cowboy and his buddy. Caught a few, one pretty nice one. Almost no Iso's on the water, mostly sulpurs and Cahills in the afternoon. We left early, but the sulphurs usually hatch in the evening pretty well.

One thing to remember bugs hatch in one section, and for some reason do not hatch in others on any given day; so floating or moving around is usually your best plan of attack.

Good luck.


Thanks for the response.

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Re: Fall Catskill JAM.....the final chaptet

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Tom,
How did you get permission to use that photo of Shane high-sticking as your avatar? They make the guys dress fancy for those fishing tourneys ya know.



People get mad at me because I pull long floats and don't spend much time in any one spot. If I do see something worthy of anchoring up for a few hours, I do so but understand I may have to row out 3 miles in the dark.

According to FUDR, the Hale Eddy area should be open tomorrow. They've also released and additional 300 cfs due to the hot weather.

Beast,
Aren't you trying to make it up with us in Oct? I have to clear it with my boss tomorrow or Friday but I plan to make a 2-3 day trip up at the very end of this month or the beginning of August. I'll wait for the heat to break....not for the fishes sake but for mine. Too hot to drag a boat around in waders.


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Beast,
Aren't you trying to make it up with us in Oct? I have to clear it with my boss tomorrow or Friday but I plan to make a 2-3 day trip up at the very end of this month or the beginning of August. I'll wait for the heat to break....not for the fishes sake but for mine. Too hot to drag a boat around in waders.




Yeah, that was the part of one of the responses up there where I said,"I'm interested", then a comma, and something about slate drakes. Basically, a grammatical murder scene, resulting in incoherence.

At any rate, yeah I am almost certainly going to go up in October, and I am looking to make some exploratory runs up there soon. I know the game lands(299) is open, and I saw there is some access right around the Cannonsville outflow.

Can't really ignore 48 degree water on the east coast any longer. This heat wave has pushed me over the edge. I'm not really a brookie man, lol.

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BTW K-fish. Can't make the chaptet this year because of my work schedule. Should be a good time for all.

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Tom
I'm very sad to see that you won't be making it. If you don't mind, feel free to change "chaplet" to "chapter". Had issues typing the original post via phone.


Beast,
The water by the outlet is so cold, it makes your legs ache. If you last more than an hour in Deposit, you are more of a man than I am. Remember that above the gamelands requires a NY license. Getting in a "few reps" prior to the jam won't matter unless the conditions in October match when you are there in July. Not likely. The flows vary so much that lies change, temps will be different and pre-spawn will also be in play in October. You can fish there twice a week from May until October and never have the same conditions twice. It always is changing and you have to adapt to find the fish. We'll get you onto fish...don't worry about that. 25 yrs up there and I still feel like a first timer a majority of the time. If I go in the next 2 weeks, you are welcome to join me.

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Yeah, I just want to explore, and whatever happens, happens. 56 at Hale Eddy, amazing. What is it about 4-5 miles from Hale Eddy to sgl 299?

If you look at this map http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/ ... spx?rgn=Northeast&sgl=299 it appears that the upper game lands boundary is actually off the river there, is that the case or can you fish that upper part right into the water. Did the game commission ever buy that cut out gap in the center or is that private property.


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Re: Fall Catskill JAM.....the final chapter

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That section you're talking about is private if I'm not mistaken...hence the terms 'upper gamelands' and 'lower gamelands'. I have never waded up there because I refuse to be part of the circus. It can look like the SR when the kings are running. LOL. The temperature should be good the entire length of the wb and for the first 3-10 miles of the main (all depends on cfs released, air temp, amount of sunshine). Lordville gauge is 10 miles below the junction and until recently, it's stayed in the mid 60's. Any doubt, take the temperature.

You will find out that the water temp may help or hurt you. If it's too cold, the hatch never gets going or fog forms and shuts everything down. The lower you are on the river, the less likely you will get fogged out. Also monitor rainfall before heading up. One downpour and Ocagua is pumping straight yoohoo into the river.

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I'm in

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Re: Fall Catskill JAM.....the final chapter

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Ok, looks like we have.....

Me
Josh
DaveS
Alby + 2-4 guys
skybay
Tim Robinson
NJ Tom
PhilC
Martin
BeastBrown
Becker
NickR ??
and others on the fence.

I'll call the Capra and let them know the dates and aprox group size.

Preliminary schedule:
Fish Tuesday & Wednesday
If you are bringing your "shovels", golf on Thursday
Fish Friday, Saturday and possibly Sunday morning

Fishing may be done by float or wading and that will be determined by the flows when we get there. Drift boats, canoes, kayaks and pontoons will work. Feel free to PM if you have any question.


Raffle held on motel porch Saturday morning. Tickets $10 each with proceeds going to FUDR. Raffle should include a couple of fly assortments, framed / matted painting from Dave Weaver, a 3 weight rod and or reel (if it doesn't sell in the swap forum),, hats, shirts and more.

If you have food plans or questions, start posting. I may skip the pork and kraut this trip. Might go with a stew instead.

If there is a God, big Frank will be there. If Dave will let me, I'll take him in the 2 man pontoon.

Posted on: 2013/7/22 12:03
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