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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Personally I do not believe what some of the posters on Valley say what they caught. The Prof and I fished on the 19th and he got one and me zip. That is over 60 years combined experience. We met up with a couple of guys who had 10 more years on us and they were skunked. With the stream so low on the 19th and bright sun and gin clear water not even Lefty could catch 9 fish.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Seriously?

I've fished behind guys on Big Spring and caught fish while they caught none. I've been skunked on streams when my fishing buddy has caught 20+ and we were using the same fly.


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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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As long as you brought it up. Ive fished valley for 25 years and the numbers and sizes don't coincide with my experience. Maybe the fish got dumber over the last two years I've been away.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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I wonder if the equipment you saw had anything to do with the sewage leakage?

It doesn't look good, although the fish and boat commission have not found any dead fish:

http://www.timesherald.com/article/20 ... 20329957&pager=full_story


And... Whoops.. posted the above before I saw the other sewage leak post in Stream Locations forum.. Sorry..

Posted on: 2012/3/21 8:05

Edited by sroach on 2012/3/21 8:28:59


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Good quality pics. What are you shooting with?


Thanks. Canon 5D Mark II.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Personally I do not believe what some of the posters on Valley say what they caught. The Prof and I fished on the 19th and he got one and me zip. That is over 60 years combined experience. We met up with a couple of guys who had 10 more years on us and they were skunked. With the stream so low on the 19th and bright sun and gin clear water not even Lefty could catch 9 fish.


You've most certainly been fishing longer than I have.

You're also most likely a better angler.

However, neither of these facts make me a liar.

Plus, I'd like to think that if I was going to post full of crap stream reports, that I could come up with something better than the glory filled tale of all the dinks I caught one day.




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Posted on: 2012/3/21 8:15
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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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That Camera does take nice pictures!!

Love the coloring on that first one shot above.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Greenlander,

Exactly what I was thinking. Why the hell would someone lie about 6" and under fish????? I have no doubt that you got them. I had damn near that many hits but only the one hooked and brought in (it was a bit larger). I say good job and I wouldn't put money on who's the better angler!!!!! By the way, the number of years fishing has very little to do with anything when we really only started fishing this Creek two years ago and seriously only a few months ago.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Not really focusing so much on Greenlander. More directed on the 20 fish a day guys on Valley. Maybe John Powers post is correct. The fish have gotten dumber in the past 2 years. My apologies to GL if he thought I was accusing him of lying. I'd rather chalk it up as a grumpy old man being frustrated after wading from the pedestrian bridge OTP up to the turnpike and then back down all the way to where Little Valley almost meets Valley and then back to the pedestrian bridge with nothing to show for it but sore feet. Quote:

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Greenlander,

Exactly what I was thinking. Why the hell would someone lie about 6" and under fish????? I have no doubt that you got them. I had damn near that many hits but only the one hooked and brought in (it was a bit larger). I say good job and I wouldn't put money on who's the better angler!!!!! By the way, the number of years fishing has very little to do with anything when we really only started fishing this Creek two years ago and seriously only a few months ago.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Not really focusing so much on Greenlander. More directed on the 20 fish a day guys on Valley. Maybe John Powers post is correct. The fish have gotten dumber in the past 2 years. My apologies to GL if he thought I was accusing him of lying. I'd rather chalk it up as a grumpy old man being frustrated after wading from the pedestrian bridge OTP up to the turnpike and then back down all the way to where Little Valley almost meets Valley and then back to the pedestrian bridge with nothing to show for it but sore feet.


No sweat whether you were focusing on me or not.

I don't think the fish have gotten dumber, I just think a few guys have certain things about that stream figured out. I can guarantee that if I had fished the same stretch of water I fished the day we were both there (and we fished mostly the same water), but fished it using different methods, that I would have walked away with little or nothing to show for it.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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In the slightly over a year that I've lived here, I think I have 6 trips logged on Valley Creek. My totals, in order, were:

0, 18, 6, 12, 5, and 10.

I'm chalking up the 0 to a learning curve, but probably being a little evasive in doing so. If you line up the days from fewest to most, it also happens to correspond PERFECTLY to the cfs on the gauge that day, from lowest to highest. The secret to Valley is high water, at least for me during fall/winter/spring. I haven't fished the summer yet.

YMMV

Biggest fish: 15"
Average fish: 7-8"

Posted on: 2012/3/21 11:07


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Valley Creek has its moments. My average day is 1-3 fish on Valley Creek. Last year I arived on an April afternoon and fished behind several other fly-fisherman. I managed to land 9 and lost many more between late afternoon and dusk. I expected a poor fishing day but it ended up being my best outing on VC to date. There are definately techniques that can make the difference on Valley Creek; however, sometimes it takes some luck as well as skill. We definately need some rain though. Valley is getting quite low for this time of the year.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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fadeaway263 wrote:
Personally I do not believe what some of the posters on Valley say what they caught. The Prof and I fished on the 19th and he got one and me zip. That is over 60 years combined experience. We met up with a couple of guys who had 10 more years on us and they were skunked. With the stream so low on the 19th and bright sun and gin clear water not even Lefty could catch 9 fish.



Not sure what you guys are doing wrong Fade but if you guys want some lessons let me know

But I have only been fly fishing for five years

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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fadeaway263 wrote:
Personally I do not believe what some of the posters on Valley say what they caught. The Prof and I fished on the 19th and he got one and me zip. That is over 60 years combined experience. We met up with a couple of guys who had 10 more years on us and they were skunked. With the stream so low on the 19th and bright sun and gin clear water not even Lefty could catch 9 fish.



Not sure what you guys are doing wrong Fade but if you guys want some lessons let me know

But I have only been fly fishing for five years


Fred not so sure if it is a lesson thing yet. I think it is more due to the fact that the Prof and I seem to be focusing more on native fish as opposed to the stockies we have fished for over the years. You just can't throw a #12 wooly bugger at the fish in Valley and expect immediate results like you get when fishing a place like Chester Creek. But then again I do just fine when fishing BHPTs for the natives in the Upper Delaware. I guess I just have to resign myself to fishing teeny tiny midges on Valley and leave the big stuff for the other streams.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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None of my fish listed above were caught on anything below a size 18.

Most of them were on 16 and 18 Hare's Ear nymphs. A few on PT's and a few on olive dries.

I think the biggest difference is not in skill or tactics, but WHEN. I pretty much avoid it when it's low and clear. I know its tough, so why beat your head against a wall? Go somewhere that fishes better in those conditions!

After we get a nice gully washer, that's when my mind turns to VC. It drops quick, so be there before you think you should after a rain, you want it up and stained. The 18 fish day was about 8 hrs past flood stage...

Posted on: 2012/3/21 12:14



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