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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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yeah,don't take rocks to gunfights.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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I don't think it is legal to fish live bait there. It may be, but I think it not.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Well, if it was in the park, the park is allowed to have their own regs, and they may, I'm not sure.

But according to the fish commission, the entire drainage is all tackle C&R, and bait is allowed.

Posted on: 2012/3/22 20:50


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Valley is an all tackle stream. If you read the signs along the stream, it doesn't say anything about what tackle you can or cannot use. It just says that the trout aren't safe to eat, and they must be returned to the stream. If there were tackle restrictions on Valley, the signs would have said so.

Posted on: 2012/3/22 21:28


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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I was right, the fish commission website says that Valley Creek has C&R all tackle regs.

Posted on: 2012/3/22 21:30


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Either way, throwing rocks at people, their cars or spouses wether poaching or fishing legally is not something anyone should be doing.
WCO's are there for a reason.


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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Just FYI on the live bait issue on Valley...

http://www.nps.gov/vafo/naturescience ... FO_fishing_facts_2012.pdf

From the National Park Service's webpage on Valley Forge National Historical Park...#3. Not sure if their regs or the PFBC's trump, but just a heads up. I'd imagine a park ranger would enforce their no live bait rules though, whereas a WCO may not.

Edit: Obviously this only applies to the Nat'l Park. No question on sections of stream outside of the park it's C&R all tackle.

Posted on: 2012/3/22 21:45


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Swattie,

Great find and that is interesting.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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In addition...from the PFBC's C&R All Tackle reg page...

"Valley Creek – at Valley Forge and tributaries including Little Valley Creek. Be aware that Valley Forge National Historic Park has imposed special bait restrictions. Check local posters."

Not sure what the NPS posters say, and if they're posted properly, but this would lead me to believe the PFBC is on board with enforcing the Park's regs.

Posted on: 2012/3/22 22:01


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Wow. I guess I was part correct. Confusing, but I remember having spoken with a guy who said it wasn't kosher to dunk bait. Is it OK to throw rocks at them in the park?

Posted on: 2012/3/23 9:34


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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Okay to throw rocks at mountain lions,abominables and Jerseyites.All other targets should be considered individually.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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The PFBC rule would apply everywhere. C&R, no restriction on bait. And they would enforce that.

Landowners are permitted to create their own rules, on their land only of course. They can't permit something the PFBC doesn't permit, but they can place increased restrictions. If they do so, then it is their responsibility to properly inform the public and enforce those restrictions, and violation would be considered a trespassing offense, not a violation of game laws. I do not know whether the Park Service has come to an agreement with the PFBC regarding bait, so I don't know whether a WCO would take any action on someone fishing bait. I'm guessing no, but he might inform a park ranger, who would take action.

Either way, the bait restriction would only apply on Park lands.

And either way, no, I do not suggest throwing rocks at anybody! :)

Posted on: 2012/3/23 10:39


Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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PFBC would have no say vs the National Park Service. Federal government trumps the Commonwealth. Supremacy Clause, US Constitution.

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Re: Valley Creek, Chester County, 3/19/2012

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But again, pcray is right in that they still have to enforce, and I don't know that they do or don't.

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