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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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So junk fly is not as a derogative term as it might seem?...it simply means that it represents nothing specifically that can be pronounced in latin?

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008
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"junk fly" :: "attractor", "bobber" :: "indicator"

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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I wish I had a nickel for every trout caught on a green weenie!

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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My first fish ever fly fishing was on a green weenie.

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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Fished the project on the Loyalhanna today from 2:30 to 5:30. Caught several rainbow stockers on junk flies with indicator. Helped stock nearby Mill Creek earlier in the day. First time I had ever helped out with a stocking. It was okay and I could see how it would be fun for the kids.

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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I hope you took your revenge on that poison ivy vine!

Posted on: 2008/3/11 22:40
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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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I say sometimes caddis, sometimes inchworm, most often eggs.

Trout see all colors similar to humans, however, they are especially perceptive to yellows and greens. The reasoning is that those colors don't travel distances well in water, so seeing it better brings them closer to full spectrum vision. But put a yellow or green real close, and the color really pops for them. This enhanced sensitivity centers on chartreuse, which is a very popular fishing color indeed.

I've had more luck with green weenies on rainbows. Yeah, you can pick up brookies, which eat anything, or browns, when in the tribs or when suckers are running on any stream. But they're, at the heart of it, rainbow killers. Rainbows are genetically programmed to eat eggs, and seem to recognize and respond to them nomatter what the situation. I think anything bright and gaudy colored triggers this response in rainbows, I've had them rise and take a strike indicator rather than the nice drab pheasant tail below. Pink weenies work too.

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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I've actually had more success on brown trout.

I agree with all of your sentiments about the bright colors and rainbows, but I've found the weenie to overall work best on brownies. It even works on wild fish, which are usually brownies as well.

Small sample size, so I don't make anything of it. Just figured I'd mention.

Pink weenies are almost exclusive rainbow catchers for me.

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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Spend a couple hours in the DH between noon and 2. spent the first two hours trying to convince myself I could catch something on my swap buggers, little black stoneflies and things that looked like real trout food. With a half hour left I finally broke down and put a pink sucker spawn below a split shot and caught 6 before I left. I feel so dirty...

Posted on: 2008/3/17 19:56


Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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Dude,
I must suck because I hit that section on Sat and got the skunk. Infact I never do good there. Maybe it is a mental block but I always do crappy there.

I pounded the hole under the swinging bridge and the next one dow with all of the mtn laurel on the hill side. Nada.

What gives?

I can catch wild brownies all day long at Spring or Yellow. Can't buy a stockie on the Loyalhanna.

Posted on: 2008/3/17 22:43


Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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Ryan,

What color is your weenie? If its not green, that might be the problem...

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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Ryan,

What color is your weenie?


Nevermind...too easy....

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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I never really do very good on the Loyalhanna- mostly fish there out of convience. The project water is always getting pounded. Have a friend that mentions decent bug activity there but I never seem to catch it.

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008

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Yesterday there were lots of cream midges and the occasional stonefly buzzing about.

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Re: Loyalhanna, Westmoreland, 9Mar2008
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Acristic wrote: “I never really do very good on the Loyalhanna- mostly fish there out of convience. The project water is always getting pounded. Have a friend that mentions decent bug activity there but I never seem to catch it.


I’ve never fished the Loyalhanna, but from what you describe, it sounds an awful lot like many SEPA streams I sometimes fish. In general I’ve found in heavily pressured streams, when the water is at a decent level, fishing small flies and concentrating on getting a good drag-free drift usually works. Lengthen your leader and lighten up your tippet. Also, try to match the hatch and/or match insects that you seine from the water. The fish have seen thousands flies dragged in front of them, and a small natural looking insect drifting perfectly in front of their nose is hard to resist. In the summer or late spring, few trout can resist a small ant pattern fished on the surface or in the film, ditto for a small zebra midge or tiny pheasant tail nymph. Good luck.

Posted on: 2008/3/18 12:23



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