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Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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Mike where do you guys survey? At 322 and Pumping Station Road, no doubt it is wide, but what about upstream? Have the stretches at the power lines up through to the boy scout bridge ever been surveyed, or even a little downstream of that? Just curious. The stream is not as wide up through there and my numbers have been very strong this summer through those stretches.

Posted on: 2013/10/14 21:21


Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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Mike - Are you able to disclose what the relative breakdown of Brookies and Browns was in those surveys. There definitely seems to be more Browns now than say 3 or 4 years ago and generally biomass adds up quicker with Browns than it does Brookies. If you didn't turn up many Browns in those surveys, it may be worth another look.

Edit: Plus what Squatch said...the stream is narrower up there so your denominator will be smaller for the same mass of Trout. Right around 322 is the junkiest water in the stretch we're discussing.

Posted on: 2013/10/14 21:24


Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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The water between Speedwell Forge Rd and probably 1/4 of a mile upstream of PSR is pretty "junky". I still catch some nice brookies and brownies out of there, but "junky" is definitely the right word!

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Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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When you reference pumping station road do you mean where it crosses the creek well upstream of 322?
Speedwell Forge road crosses the creek twice below 322. It is a little confusing the way the roads are labled.
I still don't get the knocks on the stream being wide downstream of 322. There are some nice pools, riffles, chutes etc. down through there. Maybe I am really missing something upstream. Haven't fished it much up from 322 but my drives through there seemed to indicate slower water (it was narrower) but it really didn't look decent until I hit the posted water.

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Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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The recent sampling sites have been run at various locations from about where you can see the old deflectors from the dirt road upstream to the area behind the houses, all within the stocked trout section. Yes, there have been browns in the catches........from memory, perhaps a dozen in 300 m. of electrofishing.

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Re: Hammer Creek - Lanc/Lebanon Co

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I am clearly not an internet person like you haha. I apologize, this is the first time I've been online since. A friend of mine who works for TCO just recently told me of the site "not a regular." And I did not fish the posted land you are talking about. If you re-read what I said was the water LOOKS great there. I usually work up from the main lot to the point halfway between the posted land you're referring to where the power lines run. And my intention was not to boast! Just to inform!Quote:

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He probably has a flashback to one of those "messin' with Sasquatch" commercials.

Posted on: 2013/10/15 23:16


Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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It's cool. I've just seen one-off stream reports going on lately.

Posted on: 2013/10/15 23:26


Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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SmellyTroutHole,

The post that you quoted me on was intended to be a joke in response to the fellow that Sasquatch referred to bumping into when he fished the Obie road area (post #8). It was not aimed at you. I apologize if you had interpreted it that way. That can the problem with Internet message boards ..... Sometimes a post can easily be interpreted by someone on the other end as something totally not what the poster intended. Its hard to put inflection into words. Tight lines.

dc410

Posted on: 2013/10/16 17:46


Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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Just an FYI for everyone but the land directly below the 322 bridge is owned by Lancaster County Conservancy and fishing is not permitted. This is not marked well but last I knew it was off limits to fishing. It is a shame because this section holds a lot of nice holdover fish. I fished it about 10 years ago and then found the no fishing signs.

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Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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The only signs are "no hunting" signs now. I've heard this before about the conservancy, and actively looked for "no fishing" signs. It appears to be open for fishing now, and has been for at least 2 years.

Posted on: 2013/10/16 21:52


Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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It would be nice if someone could clarify the posted sections below the 322 bridge. I was in the conservancy hiking around during the summer and there is some really nice water in this area. I only saw one really old posted sign and what looked to an old broken down fence that once stretched across the stream. There was a pretty well beaten path along the bank but I suppose that could be from hikers. Does anyone know if the whole stretch is open? Btw the bridge below the conservancy is clearly posted by a sportsman club.

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Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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The bridge below the conservancy? You mean at Speedwell Forge Rd? It's been a while since I've been down there, but the entire stretch from SFR to 322 is open to my knowledge. I've never seen a sign stating otherwise and last year I fished that stretch quite a bit. If it was closed in the past, it's been open.

Posted on: 2013/10/16 22:36


Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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The speedwell forge bridge at the conservancy has a lot of posted signs on it saying fishing for members only but the opposite side going upstream towards 322 doesn't have any signs. As you walk up stream there are a lot of old signs saying something similar but I can't quite remember.

Posted on: 2013/10/16 23:20


Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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Are you talking about the bridge downstream of the turnpike? I never fished below the turnpike.

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Re: Hammer Creek, Lancaster/Lebanon Cos., 9/23-27/13

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The recent sampling sites have been run at various locations from about where you can see the old deflectors from the dirt road upstream to the area behind the houses, all within the stocked trout section. Yes, there have been browns in the catches........from memory, perhaps a dozen in 300 m. of electrofishing.

Mike behind those houses, I think you told me before that since its w/in the stocking area, the owners are cool w/ people fishing through there? I bring it up because the one house has a new owner. KeithS and I actually met him when we were fishing through the one day. Nice guy, cool w/ us fishing up through his property. If the land owners would decide they didn't want people fishing through their property, would that effect how high up you stock fish?

Posted on: 2013/10/18 11:58



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