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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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I have to be honest. I don't care WHAT we're fishing with. I'm interested in this for the sole reason of going up to my favorite place in the state and fly fishing w/ you all.

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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Kettle has no QG hatch from what I understand. Crossfork I'm not sure, I will post Kettle hatch chart later today.

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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If you're fishing the bigger waters in NCPC, a good hatch can help, but the fish usually will eat nymphs & streamers. As Pat alluded to (and mentioned many times previously) water temps & levels are far more important on the tribs where the trout are opportunistic.

If you are motivated by bug intrigue (like Jack) you roll your dice and take your chances. I'm on the fence. I like different bugs and fishing different hatches, but my time is very limited and I want to be successful.

Final thought: You'll get more of the white truck chasers in April.

Tough call...

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11
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That area is polluted with waters and watersheds. If you fish only popular streams and popular areas, you will share the streams, no doubt in mid-to-late April. If you fish the stocked sections you will encounter the "truck-chasers." If, however, you look around a bit, you will find streams and areas where you can hike in for miles and get beyond any feeling of crowdedness. Chances are the hatches are better, even if smaller in scope.

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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Yep!

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11
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Continuing, I think the QG is not sunset affair, but rather something that occurs sporadically, perhaps in waves throughout the day depending upon the way the sun heats or doesn't heat the water and streambed. I'd be looking for them where no one else is-- maybe in the same watershed, but one or two ridges over.

Not to be redundant, but if you can't find a stream to fish in this area, then come along and learn how to do so:

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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First fork has a QG hatch.

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Also, if you explore this area by map, do not be deceived that streams "have roads running beside them." Look at the topography-- the roads are several hundred feet above the stream in many stretches. Finding a place to park is the easy part and it isn't easy since the roads are narrow along the ridges. Most difficult is getting to the stream over steep and long embankments. If you get in using a trib hollow or lesser slope, you can walk up or downstream often for miles before other decent access is found.

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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We can hike in Jack, it will be an adventure.

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11
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So, my only point is that crowded conditions are not a worry. Finding the hatch during the time we are there (if it is even on or not over) will be the real trick. Someone with vast knowledge of the area should be able to tell us what weekend would be best. Unless the QG is not the purpose, in which case, choosing a warmer week would make perfect sense.

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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Cross Fork QG hatch is all of April with meat of it being mid April, only two other hatches on Cross Fork at this time, tan caddis and blue quill.

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OK, but the watersheds differ and the hatch and the hatches may move around and sprout here now, there then. We are not limited to Cross Fork. If we locate right, we should be able to reach the QG hatch or some other early-season hatch on hundreds of waters within one hour. If this happens at the right time, I plan to quest for the QG. Maybe I'll fish a hatch, maybe I'll see a couple flies and catch fish on caddis instead. I like those uncertainties. If I see absolutely nothing remotely looking like a QG, I will declare the quest a bust, but probably still thoroughly enjoy the weekend.

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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Agree!

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Opening Day 2012 is April 14. The 20th (second weekend of season) or the 27th would be the weekends to consider. I would favor 20th. The crowds will still be after easy pickin's on the stocked waters.

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Re: Cross Fork, Potter County, 9/5/11

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Stocked streams will be absolutely packed in this area. There may even be some bleed over to the wild trout streams. Most of the camps in this area are used almost exclusively for that weekend. On the other hand, as you said before there is sooooo much water that we will be able to find uncrowded water. The water levels at this time of year is a coin flip. With all that being said the 20th sound fine with me.

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