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Smallmouth set up

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I do more fly fishing for smallmouth due to living in SE pa. Was wondering what's a good set up for smallmouth on the delaware river where I generally fish in 3 to 10 feet of water. Not interested in makes of rods and reels but general set ups regarding rod weight and type of fly line (weight forward, sink tip, double taper, etc).

I started with a 5 wt floating weight forward line but I find throwing the clousers, large wooley buggers and anything with a zonker on it somewhat difficult as they seem to do a lot of flailing around in comparison to a small dry or nymph. I am assuming that my equipment is more to blame then my casting. Any suggestions would be appreciated by me and my fishing partner.

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A 7WT with a floating, WF line is your best all around bet.

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Leader length can be an issue. Shorten it up to 4-6 feet to increase your distance while wading. Try to limit the amount of false casting and fling it out. I have found false casting too much is tiring and leads to a clapsed cast sometimes.

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My favorite smallmouth rig is a 9'6" 6-weight Orvis Clearwater rod, fitted with a Cabela's Prestige Premier reel. I carry one spool with a (now discontinued) Rio Clouser WF6F for general fishing, and a spare spool with an SA Professional WF6F/S III sink tip line for deeper/faster water. For leaders, I use a Cabela's 9' 8# Bass tapered leader with the floating line and a Cabela's 6' 10# Bass leader for the sink tip.
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My best choice for me is a 9' 6wt. Wt forward. I prefer a moderate action rod. I agree with a fairly short leader but I tie my own. Also like sniperfreak mentioned a sink tip comes in real handy at times.

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Had this same problem just a couple weeks ago. I ended up with a 6wt 9'. Came down to a TFO Clouser or redington vapen. Finally got a chance to cast both and ended up with the Vapen. With a shorter leader with 1x tippet throws bigger streamers like darts. I have rio gold wf6 line on there now but may go up to a 7wt line.

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I am also looking for input on a new smallmouth rod to use on the Harrisburg area warm water creeks and from my kayak on the Juniata. I was using my 8 wt orvis access but decided to leave it at our place in Florida last week after having a blast with sea trout and red fish on the flats of Sarasota bay. I found it a bit too heavy for the local waters. So... should I pop for a 6 or a 7 wt to throw clousers and small poppers? My wife gave me a nice gift cert for Christmas. May all my decisions be as tough.

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Check out the Shadow Warrior 7 wt, love mine

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Never gone below a 3X tippet maybe I should try that on the 5wt. Never tried a leader below 7' either. I usually use a 7' foot furled thread leader with about 2 to 3 feet of 3X tippet. I have noticed less flailing around with the clousers when I fish a shorter length of tippet. I shall now try a 5' furled leader and 2 to 3 ft of 1X or 2X tippet. Thanks for all the suggestions. I seem to be buying fly rods at an alarming pace but I think a 6wt may be in order as well. I'm gonna have to make another set of rod racks for the basement.

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For my SEPA smallmouth set up I rock a 6wt rod with a WFF line. Have maybe a 5-6' leader for some of the bigger bugs. I started out with an 8wt, but I like the feel the 6wt gives me when fighting smaller fish, and it still has the backbone for larger smallmouth and some smallish/medium carp.

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I suggest the Colton Slipstream XS rod. This is a new rod design by Colton. The 6wt has a small fighting butt too.

I have this rod, and I am casting a Rio Gold WF6F line. This is a fast action rod. The stiff butt section of a fast action rod comes in handy if you hook a larger fish in heavy current. The tip flex also allows you to put more line in the air when casting. This is why I chose the Rio Gold with it's 47-foot head. The 47-foot head section weighs 266 grains, so you'll need a fast action rod for optimal performance. I like to throw the smaller #4 Clousers with this setup, but it also works with the #2 size Clouser.

I also use a 7wt Colton Tradewinds rod for throwing the larger 1/50 oz #2 Clousers. The line I use with this rod is the Rio Cold Water Clouser WF7F.

I usually use the 6wt. I have tried a lot of different 6wt rods. Take my advice. Get a fast action or tip flex rod. Any brand name will do, but make sure it's a fast action rod. In my experience, these rods are the best for throwing Clousers and larger poppers.

I like the Colton rods and believe they are an excellent value. Also check out Flying Pig Performance Fly Rods or the TFO TiCr series.
Or the newer TFO BVK series.

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What FI said. The 7 wt line will make a big difference with those heavy or wind resistant flies that are needed for smallmouth.

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Dear poopdeck,

I don't fish anything smaller than a size 6 fly for smallmouth and I often fish size 1 to 3/0 flies. If you buy a 5 1/2' mono furled leader of 16# test and attach 2' to 2 1/2' of 8# test as tippet you can cast a small dog easily with proper rod.

Get an 8 weight and be done with it.

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I use an 8 and a half foot 5wt and leaders from 5-7'. I fish mostly creeks and smaller rivers.

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Holy smokes a 5 1/2 foot 16lb furled mono leader sounds more like a survival bracelet. I furl my own leaders and even though that sounds massively out of order ill give a mega leader a try.

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