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Fallfish vs creek chub

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Can anybody tell me the difference between these three species? Is there any difference? It seems like some people just call all silvery fish chubs, and some call them fallfish. I find myself calling the larger ones fallfish, and the smaller ones creek chubs.

Also - all suckers can be differentiated from creek chubs and fallfish by the fact that their mouths point downward, right?

Posted on: 2013/6/8 12:30


Re: Fallfish vs creek chub

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They're different species of minnows. Generally Fallfish are bigger and have a more scaly, shiny, almost metallic silver appearance. Creek Chubs don't grow as large and have a dark stripe down their sides. There's a few different species of Chubs that are hard to tell apart so they all get lumped together in discussion, but Fallfish are easy enough to tell apart.

PFBC Minnow Family

Correct on the mouth being the identifying feature of Suckers.

Posted on: 2013/6/8 12:54


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Fallfish. Usually they don't have so much red on them.

Posted on: 2013/6/8 13:20


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That's a slaunch midnight. And yes, Fallfish...about as big as they get. Good fight I bet wasn't it?

Posted on: 2013/6/8 13:24


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It was rising to drakes last week.

Posted on: 2013/6/8 13:26


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I actually caught a bigger one on Penns creek a few years ago. It was very nearly 18" and fatter.

I don't even remember how it fought. I hooked about six big brown trout that day and a smallmouth.

Posted on: 2013/6/8 13:30


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I know some people don't like Fallfish, but I've have a lot of fun on days when I get a mix of Trout, Bluegill & them.

After all they are a native fish to PA; I caught one last year that was 16"-17" and gave me a great time.

Posted on: 2013/6/8 13:36


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Caught about a 14" fallfish in the Conestoga last weekend on a #4 woolly bugger with rubber legs, hot orange bead. Thought I had a nice smallie but after no jumps it seemed strange. Then I figured it was a channel cal because I caught one of those too. Put up a good fight.

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I have caught a close to 20incher on the Lehigh. Seen ones the same size taken on the Lehigh and Delaware.

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Come enjoy the Pennsylvania Grayling fishing on Penns Creek!

Posted on: 2013/6/8 18:31


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Creek chubs are just pesky minnows......but fallfish are deserving of a much better reputation. They fight hard - as well if not better than trout of the same size - and rise to dry flies. They have earned my respect.
The bigger ones, in my experience, seem to reside in the medium sized warm water rivers.

Posted on: 2013/6/8 20:07


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Fallfish are native in the Brandywine and sometimes jump. Although hatchery trouts lately are better colored and fight better (they've improved the Trout Chow), at times at first it was hard to tell if you had a fallfish or trout on. But like crappie, after the initial tussle, fallfish tend to come in easier and don't have the second wind trouts do. I find hooking fallfish on dries requires a bit of a pause to let them turn the fly in the mouth (or something), much like the whitefish in the Rockies.

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Caught a 15 inch chain pickerel in Penns Friday evening not real thrilled catching them in there.

Posted on: 2013/6/9 19:45


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Jeremy,

Here is a photo of a fallfish and a creek chub. The fallfish is a decent sized one that I caught last year but it is very common to catch smaller fallfish that are similar in size to some larger chubs. You probably won't find many photos of creek chubs floating around on this site but this one was colored up pretty nice and I am kind of glad I took a photo of it after I saw that you posted this thread. When creek chubs get a bit larger sometimes they lose the darker lateral marking that is often mentioned in the description of the species. Generally you will catch creek chubs on smaller flies (I think the one in the picture I caught on a #14 black fur ant - wet). You won't catch many Creek Chubs on a size 4 deep Clouser minnow like I was using when I took the Fallfish.

Suckers are ............ Suckers! I think you probably got those figured out

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Posted on: 2013/6/9 20:53


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That fish in the bottom photo is actually a striped shiner.

Posted on: 2013/6/9 20:56



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