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Re: tippet to leader
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acristickid wrote:
Primarly use the blood knot- feel it gets a better connection and feel to the end of my leader.



Wow Paul, you've risen to such a level of sensitivity that you can feel the difference between two different types of knots on your leader!

I use a triple surgeons when tying on my tippet section. If I'm joining a length of tippet with the fly already attached, I use a blood knot. Either works just as well IMO, but I usually use the surgeons because it's a little easier and faster to tie.

Posted on: 2009/3/10 11:41


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I use a knot I saw in an article by Lefty Kreh called the Forcep Blood Knot. Fast to tie, holds great and because forceps are used in place of 1 hand, it works well for those w/ less nimble fingers or cold hands.


http://www.flyfisherman.com/videos/hemostatbloodknot.wmv

I found this demonstration of that knot...am I seeing this wrong? The knot does not end up parallel to the line as a regular blood knot would but appears to end up perpendicular to the line.

Posted on: 2009/3/10 11:41


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You guys that say your using a loop to loop or something similar, wouldn't that effect your presentation? How long is your tippet?

Posted on: 2009/3/10 12:44


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I goofed up and Tom the proof reader caught it and I fought it.dang-tough getting old-apologies to Tom.
Several times I said loop when of course meant overhand knot-
overhand knot the heavier line clinch the lighter and its as strong as a regular blood knot because the lighter gives first

Posted on: 2009/3/10 14:28
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got it...I think I'll just practice tying knots with my eyes shut.

Posted on: 2009/3/10 16:08


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Tom,

I believe you got the right knot, but mine seem to end up more parallel. Try it out, it works well for me. I will say that I normally use the traditional blood knot.

Posted on: 2009/3/10 17:24


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I use a triple surgeons knot. It is quick, easy, and has always worked well for me. Just be sure to wet it before you pull it tight.

Posted on: 2009/3/10 18:58
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afish wrote-

"Wow Paul, you've risen to such a level of sensitivity that you can feel the difference between two different types of knots on your leader!"

No, I am still totally average but I did also say-

"Probably just a personal psychological issue."

Posted on: 2009/3/10 20:23
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blood knot when i can, triple surgeons when i can`t....

Posted on: 2009/3/10 23:44
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blood knot

Posted on: 2009/3/12 17:45
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The Triple Surgeon's knot beats the Blood Knot hands down.

I did tests of the blood knot vs. the triple surgeon's knot in 2-lb mono.

The Triple Surgeon's knot beat the blood knot almost every time. It wasn't even close. I'll never tie another blood-knot.

Try it yourself and you'll see:

Test Procedure:

I tied three sections of 2-lb mono together, using a blood knot for one knot and a triple surgeon's for the other. Then I tied loops in the open ends (to pull on).

In 18 out of 20 trials the triple surgeons knot beat the blood knot.

Another great option

Tippet Rings. Tie a 2mm tippet ring on the leader using an Orvis Knot (much better than an improved clinch). Then tie the tippet on with another orvis knot. This rig will generally beat the triple surgeon's in my experience. And you don't need to worry about the relative diameter of two sections that you are connecting together.

Also you can tie a dropper on to the tippet ring too.

Posted on: 2009/3/16 18:51


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One explanation could be you tie bad blood knots...?

Posted on: 2009/3/16 21:01


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The blood knot requires tons of moisture to tie properly. Are you sure you're wetting them well? I tie them under water, or completely covered in spit, and have never had a problem.

Posted on: 2009/3/16 21:31


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Tom,

Occam's Razor would suggest the triple surgeon's knot is just stronger.

Posted on: 2009/3/16 21:40
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tomgamber wrote:
One explanation could be you tie bad blood knots...?


I wouldn't rule that out - I do hate the blood knot.

You should try it out though - test it yourself and see, you might be surprised.

Posted on: 2009/3/16 21:57



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