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Re: Polish Nymphing

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I adopted Czech style nymphing this year and I absolutely love it. All the Euro styles are fairly complex rigs and I find I prefer the the short leader, high stick technique to get the flies properly through the strike zone. I really have enjoyed it and had great success with it. Additionally, I feel it provides an easier way to search dirty or blown out water in a methodical pattern and absolutely catch fish you otherwise would have passed/missed.

It was particularly succesful in Yellowstone this year fishing blown out Slough Creek and the Lamar. No one was on the water except for my buddy and myself and we caught the big boys in muddy water using the Czech technique exclusively. Im convinced it allowed us to have a great day alone on usually crowded water and catch fish much bigger than if we were pitching dries...

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Re: Polish Nymphing

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I just want to make a quick point for the new guys reading this stuff. If you are bouncing and getting snagged on the bottom you have too much weight. You want your flies about 4-6inches off the stream bed. So if you feel constant ticking from the bottom, angle your rod tip up a little higher or lift your arm a little higher untill it is a smooth drift. Put those nymphs right in their line of sight.

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Re: Polish Nymphing

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geebee wrote:

both are about getting your nymph or nymphs HARD on the bottom in fast deep flows - runs, if you like.



A thigh deep run would be a pretty deep run for Czech/Polish style nymphing.


thats interesting, when i've seen it done they were mostly thigh deep to almost top of their waders - like this :

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thats when i thought it most effective - in fast deep water where you can be 3-4 feet away from the fish and you get HARD on the bottom.

thats definitely how they were fishing during the European Junior FF CHampionships because i watched it on TV over there.

otherwise - in shallower water you can just high stick a short line.

in the deep water, you lob upstream & drop the rod tip, raise it as it approaches you, then lower it as it passes you.










Posted on: 2013/10/17 13:25


Re: Polish Nymphing

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A “polish nymphing” is a term were not everyone may quite agree …well unless…I'm nymphing there

Polish woven nymph – may be correct but only when I tie them by myself

do you see on the "Wisla River" picture anybody “nymphing”... ?

PS: stay tune for my video on 100% polish woven nymph



“polish nymphing”
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Posted on: 2013/10/17 20:07

Edited by skybay on 2013/10/17 20:23:02
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Re: Polish Nymphing

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thats when i thought it most effective - in fast deep water where you can be 3-4 feet away from the fish and you get HARD on the bottom.

thats definitely how they were fishing during the European Junior FF CHampionships because i watched it on TV over there.

otherwise - in shallower water you can just high stick a short line.

in the deep water, you lob upstream & drop the rod tip, raise it as it approaches you, then lower it as it passes you.



Those would be extreme situations IMO and not typical of most of the water fished with the Czech/Polish methods. The water in those pictures would be what most traditional American tight-line nymph fisherman would seek out. Not saying you can't fish deep that way, just saying that the refinements of Czech nymphing are best suited to shallower, swifter water.

Also, one thing to keep in mind about competitions is that bobber style suspension indicators are banned so they are pretty much forced to fish a tight line in most situations. Just as strike indicators are not the best method for all situations, neither is Czech nymphing, but if you have to play by a set of rules...

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Re: Polish Nymphing

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I can't hold back on this one. Based on my limited experience (dating back to the mid-70's) I find it impossible to refer to the no attached indicator nymphing techinques as Czech, Polish, French or whatever. I learned this style of nymphing long before I ever knew about competitive fly fishing.

I was fortunate to be around some of the most innovative/effective nymph fishermen I will have ever known in the Lehigh Valley area back in the day and these folks were constantly experimenting with leaders and set-ups to make strike detection more effective. That's when someone came up with including a section or two of highly visible mono into the leader. That was somewhere around the mid-70's and, back then, we referred to it as a built-in strike indicator. Today we call this a sighter.

I'm not up on the history of Euro nymphing so I don't know when someone over there came up with the idea of a sighter; however, I wonder if perhaps we may have been the first.

You may ask why it hadn't become so well known in the U.S. earlier and that's a question I can answer with a bit of experience. Back in the 70's and 80's there wasn't much interest in nymph fishing. I was an advocate and would encourage folks I encountered to fish nymphs. I would offer to introduce them to this style of fishing and only a couple of folks took me up on my offer. Most of what I said fell on deaf ears. I could never understand why folks wouldn't have a burning desire to become more effective in their pursuit of trout but that's how it was.

I firmly believe that, to be the most effective nymph fisher today, one should become proficient using sighters and attached indicators. Believe me, there is no end-all, catch-all here.

Dave R.

Posted on: 12/16 12:21


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OldLefty wrote:
I can't hold back on this one. Based on my limited experience (dating back to the mid-70's) I find it impossible to refer to the no attached indicator nymphing techinques as Czech, Polish, French or whatever. I learned this style of nymphing long before I ever knew about competitive fly fishing.

I was fortunate to be around some of the most innovative/effective nymph fishermen I will have ever known in the Lehigh Valley area back in the day and these folks were constantly experimenting with leaders and set-ups to make strike detection more effective. That's when someone came up with including a section or two of highly visible mono into the leader. That was somewhere around the mid-70's and, back then, we referred to it as a built-in strike indicator. Today we call this a sighter.

I'm not up on the history of Euro nymphing so I don't know when someone over there came up with the idea of a sighter; however, I wonder if perhaps we may have been the first.

You may ask why it hadn't become so well known in the U.S. earlier and that's a question I can answer with a bit of experience. Back in the 70's and 80's there wasn't much interest in nymph fishing. I was an advocate and would encourage folks I encountered to fish nymphs. I would offer to introduce them to this style of fishing and only a couple of folks took me up on my offer. Most of what I said fell on deaf ears. I could never understand why folks wouldn't have a burning desire to become more effective in their pursuit of trout but that's how it was.

I firmly believe that, to be the most effective nymph fisher today, one should become proficient using sighters and attached indicators. Believe me, there is no end-all, catch-all here.

Dave R.



LOL...Great post!

Yup. Back in the 70's I remember tying in orange or chart colored backing and even spray painting my line to make my leader more visible for nymphing.

Also, I've been tying and fishing weighted flies and fishing and leading with a tight line like bait fishing. That's actually how I learned how to FF.

With that being said, the comp guys are great anglers, some of the best in the world, but I would say they popularized many of the techniques of nymphing and maybe improved upon them in certain cases, rather than invented them.

Should we call in Pee-yeh nymphing?!

Posted on: 12/16 13:01

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Re: Polish Nymphing

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I am all for Pee-yah high sticking. Start spreading the word. Good post Ol' Southpaw.

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Re: Polish Nymphing

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There's no question that some of the comp. anglers are some of the best in the world. There's a lot more to a high success potential than the equipment, accessories and flies used. The angler must be like a fine-tuned instrument, as well.

An inexperienced driver teamed with the fastest, best-handling car in the world would not be expected to win a race.

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In the early 1970s, pre-indicator nymphing, most of us were fishing with Fenwick fiberglass rods that were only 7 or 7 1/2 feet long.

I'm not sure you could call that "high sticking" with such short fly rods.

Much of the nymphing we did was not "high sticking" or "short lining."

We often made medium or even long casts and drifts. But just without an indicator. (Some of stubborn types still fish this way.)

Posted on: 12/17 11:22


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I agree with OldLefty. I learned this style of nymphing long before I ever heard of Czech nymphing, or indicators for that matter. I just heard about indicators this year.

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Re: Polish Nymphing

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JMP, thanks for that info, I am going to give that a shot and look for more!

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Re: Polish Nymphing

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I find this type of nymphing to be a very effective way to catch fish, no matter the name you attach to it. One thing to keep in mind when choosing/designing your leader is that anything over 18 feet is illegal on c&r ffo stream sections. There are some applications of this type of nymphing where the exact length of the leader/Tippett material from the end of the fly line doesn't matter too much since you rarely, if ever, really use the actual fly line. Making sure you stay below 18' though will keep you from having a bad day with a WCO.

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Re: Polish Nymphing

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Based on my reading so far, it seems that only about 9 ft of leader/tippet is required to fish in the style. Can you make it longer? When would you or would you not?

I like the idea of a built in indicator, as I never use one.

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Based on my reading so far, it seems that only about 9 ft of leader/tippet is required to fish in the style. Can you make it longer? When would you or would you not?

I like the idea of a built in indicator, as I never use one.


Check out the rig on pages 14-15 in the link below

http://www.bluequillangler.com/site/e ... _nymphing_techniques.html

My typical leader/tippet length usually ends up being around 16'

Posted on: 12/29 8:51



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