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Re: Heavier line in tight streams ??
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troutslammer wrote:
no matter , what leader , or line or casting ability , some rods don't cast well in tight areas , there are rods made for specific situations , its in the flex of the rod , how much of a back cast it takes to load it properly , yes tapered leaders will work better etc , but most of it i think is in the rod flex



All true. One thing though, casting a heavier or lighter line weight on a rod will not change the "flex" of the rod. With heavier line the rod will load a little more at a shorter distance, and vice versa for light line.

I'm a big believer that a faster rod (but not super fast) works better in tighter casting areas, for me anyway. I can squeeze my line in tighter spots with the tighter loop resulting from a tip-action fast rod. Over lining with a fast rod in this situation may be an asset since it will load the rod a little more at a shorter distance. I agree with you Slammer that the flex of the rod is the flex of the rod. I really can’t give any suggestion how to tweak a full flex rod.

Osprey is correct that there are other things to tweak, especially your casting.

Posted on: 2009/12/13 8:07


Re: Heavier line in tight streams ??

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exactly a fish, fast action tip flex rods are made for tight quarters , tighter loops - more accurate at short distances , for punching in brush or rocks , over lining a med. fast action rod will help a little but .., tapered leaders help too but they create drag for nymphing if that is the task at hand.

Posted on: 2009/12/13 19:12


Re: Heavier line in tight streams ??

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Agree with all points.

Stiffness or action: I favor faster action rods. Better for bow and arrow, and in backcasting you can throw tighter loops through smaller windows.

Leader/tippet: I tend to use a really short, fastly tapered leader, say 5' of leader material. I do add tippet, but change the length constantly. As long of tippet as I can get away with, but not longer. Sometimes, when I gotta throw really tight, we're talking a foot or so of tippet, but I'll go well above 3' if I can get away with it.

Length of rod: This is the tricky part for me. If it's wide open, big woods type area, I favor a longer rod for obvious reasons. If its just a little tight, say Hemlocks and such, I'll go a little shorter to make backcasting easier. If its really tight, and this is tricky, I'll actually go longer again, maybe 8'. You're not gonna backcast much anyway, and longer rods are clearly superior for bow and arrow casting.

Posted on: 2009/12/14 16:50


Re: Heavier line in tight streams ??

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Thanks all, Lots of great pointers & I'm going to experiment with different leaders. Since I had a WF 5wt line available, i tried it and its a real improvement on this 4wt rod ! (Medium / fast - 8ft) I can't vouch for what others might experience but for my fishing which is tight with short casts it's a noticeable improvement.

Posted on: 2009/12/16 8:17


Re: Heavier line in tight streams ??

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I wouldnt worry about the line itself, I would be more concerned with the length of the setup. Eight foot is a lot of pole for a small thin water stream. I have a couple shorter setups in the lighter weight for the smaller streams. I tend to worry less about fighting my way through the tight spots and having space available for doing more than a roll cast.

Posted on: 2009/12/25 22:37
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