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Re: Euro vs. Drop Shot Nymphing

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Galloup's claim is not correct as fish can see below that 6" area, due to reflection at the surface.

In the Ring of the Rise has some good info on trout vision that will change the way you fish.

Posted on: 10/19 22:24


Re: Euro vs. Drop Shot Nymphing

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A lot of interesting ideas. Here are a few things I can add.

If using 3X or 4X you can use small nymphs if you tie them on with a loop knot. I fish in Reno NV and all the locals use tiny nymphs when appropriate, but use 3X or 4X in case they get a big old brown on - however, with heavier tippets they tie the nymph on with a loop knot. One year the fly fishing industry show was in Reno and the pros who were there laughed at the local use of heavy tippets, until the locals outfished the visitors on their home water. Home field advantage helps, but heavy tippets with loop knots works here as well.

The roll on the bottom or up to mid level depends on the fish - there are no hard fast rules. I watch fish a lot and often the fish rise somewhat above the bottom when they are feeding heavy and it makes sense to put the fly above the bottom, even to mid level. Sometimes they are grubbing stuff off the bottom. Rainbows especially like to grub things off the bottom and sometimes have rubbed noses. I once asked the late Al Miller about the best level to fish an Al's Rat and he said at the level the fish are feeding. Trout can see top to bottom IMHO - the question is where are they looking.

Posted on: 10/31 9:18


Re: Euro vs. Drop Shot Nymphing

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SteveG wrote:
Galloup's claim is not correct as fish can see below that 6" area, due to reflection at the surface.

In the Ring of the Rise has some good info on trout vision that will change the way you fish.


What about broken moving water? Or cloudy water conditions? Or fish holding very deep?

I suppose under ideal conditions a fish could use the surface reflection to find food drifting below it. I'm not sure how often this actually happens. More likely, a fish just sees the fly/food from far enough away and can react to change it's depth as needed to intercept food.

I think the real point to suspending your flies 6" (or whatever depth) above the bottom is to make them appear as easily noticed, easily captured meals, o to imitate struggling, emerging insects.

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