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Re: Emerging Caddis?

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Try the Lafontaine pupae pattern, with the antron shuck, and tie them small and sparse.

There are times when these have been amazingly effective. And there are other times when they haven't worked at all, and I don't really know why.

But the times when they really did work well are memorable. I remember a time fishing these when the tan caddis were hatching, and standing at one spot, where a riffle flowed into a pool, and for about an hour getting a strike on nearly every cast.

I saw a pupae that failed to open floating downstream on the surface one time during the tan caddis hatch. They are much smaller than I expected from looking at the adult, and are very compact, like a little seed pod.

I think you can tie them pretty small, sparse, and simplified.

Posted on: 2011/7/8 9:49


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Try the Lafontaine pupae pattern, with the antron shuck, and tie them small and sparse.

There are times when these have been amazingly effective. And there are other times when they haven't worked at all, and I don't really know why.

But the times when they really did work well are memorable. I remember a time fishing these when the tan caddis were hatching, and standing at one spot, where a riffle flowed into a pool, and for about an hour getting a strike on nearly every cast.

I saw a pupae that failed to open floating downstream on the surface one time during the tan caddis hatch. They are much smaller than I expected from looking at the adult, and are very compact, like a little seed pod.

I think you can tie them pretty small, sparse, and simplified.


Me too Troutbert. There have been times when I hit it right fishing the ESP, and caught every fish I covered plus many I didn't know were there. I've also nymphed up dozens and dozens of trout with the DSP when nothing else would take a fish.

One other thing. I tie mostly with the original antron material used for the fly. It is my understanding that the original "tri-global" antron that Gary used is no longer made. I have no idea if that makes the difference, but great advice, Troutbert about tying them sparse and small.

Posted on: 2011/7/8 10:38


Re: Emerging Caddis?

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afishinado wrote:
Good thread. It's often tough to fool fish are chasing emerging caddis. The Lafountaine ESP & DSP work well for me most times.


Tom,

Do you have a recipe for the LeFountaine caddis's?


DSP

http://stevenojai.tripod.com/sparpupa.htm

ESP

http://hipwader.com/2003/emergent-sparkle-pupa

Posted on: 2011/7/8 10:41


Re: Emerging Caddis?

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The iris caddis. I tied a bunch of these in montana for the black caddis hatch, and they were killer. I fished them in tandem with every other caddis pattern I had, and the iris caught fish like 5-1 over them. I tied it with peacock herl and dun antron.

I find it to be easier to tie than the lafontaines, and haven't found it to be any less effective, but I also agree with troutbert about the hit or miss nature of these kind of patterns. My experience could be yet another anomaly



Posted on: 2011/7/8 10:42

Edited by afishinado on 2011/7/8 11:05:43


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troutbert wrote:
Try the Lafontaine pupae pattern, with the antron shuck, and tie them small and sparse.

There are times when these have been amazingly effective. And there are other times when they haven't worked at all, and I don't really know why.

But the times when they really did work well are memorable. I remember a time fishing these when the tan caddis were hatching, and standing at one spot, where a riffle flowed into a pool, and for about an hour getting a strike on nearly every cast.

I saw a pupae that failed to open floating downstream on the surface one time during the tan caddis hatch. They are much smaller than I expected from looking at the adult, and are very compact, like a little seed pod.

I think you can tie them pretty small, sparse, and simplified.


As mentioned in my original post, I do have some lafontaine sparkle emergers, and tried them. And I think it did catch one fish for me, if I remember correctly.
But it certainly wasn't the answer that day

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The iris caddis. I tied a bunch of these in montana for the black caddis hatch, and they were killer. I fished them in tandem with every other caddis pattern I had, and the iris caught fish like 5-1 over them. I tied it with peacock herl and dun antron.

I find it to be easier to tie than the lafontaines, and haven't found it to be any less effective, but I also agree with troutbert about the hit or miss nature of these kind of patterns. My experience could be yet another anomaly





No fly works every time, but as I said, if you hit it right, the fly will vacuum up the stream. Worth tying and carrying for sure.

BTW, out-west, especially on the Big Horn, the fish will hit a little belly button lint lashed to a hook......

Posted on: 2011/7/8 11:08


Re: Emerging Caddis?
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I think Afish the mod hit "edit" instead of "reply", so his reply is attributed to my original post for those of you that are confused.

The JackM special!



Yup. Fixed. Sorry.

Posted on: 2011/7/8 11:08


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The bookmailer has all the sparkle yarn and touch dubbing colors / material that Gary used.

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