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Re: Early Season BWO's

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Ahhhhhhhhh, the GN. I honestly don't think there is a better fly out there. Nice tie, BTW!

Posted on: 2012/2/8 11:50


Re: Early Season BWO's

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For dry dropper, I like no more thana foot between flies.

2 years ago I caught 3 fish in a row with both the dry and dropper hooked in their mouths. It happened 7 times total for me in a month's span too.

I attribute that to the proximity of the two flies. Exciting the fish to strike and..."what the heck, while I'm here i'll eat both bugs" thing.


Kern,

Do you have trouble with foul hooking fish when the dropper fly is 12" or less. I know I do when the dropper is short, the fly catches the fish and usually pulls the lead fly out of the fish's mouth. Not an issue when the fish takes the lead fly.

Posted on: 2012/2/8 14:00


Re: Early Season BWO's

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My go to has been a comparadun with trailing shuck, but the griffiths has saved the day on many occasions. Last summer I happened onto a couple of tandem rigs which worked exceptionally behind the comparadun:

1-Size 20-22 soft hackle unweighted except for a small glass bead tied behind the hackle.
2-Size 20-22 olive emerger tied palomino midge style and fished in the film.
3-Size 22-24 olive walt's worm ribbed with fine holographic mylar and tied with enough brass wire tied underneath to get it a few inches under the surface.

I tend to tie tandems on a very short line (< 12"), but then I am rarely looking to cover more than the top 6 inches of the water column.

Posted on: 2012/2/8 16:09
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Re: Early Season BWO's

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mcwillja,

I only do on larger fish; like over 14".

I believe I hook them legit, but if they get downstream of me I feel the mouth hooked fly pop out because the second fly hooked somewhere else and the pressure is enough I dislodge the mouthed fly. Again I believe this is what happens. There is definately a different fight from once hooked and then the foul hooked part and it is only when the fish gets downstream.

I will add that it's not all the time I have the flies that close; just dry dropper during a hatch.

Posted on: 2012/2/9 11:05


Re: Early Season BWO's

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Kern,

Yeah I hook them initiailly legit but if the dropper is short it hooks in the side of the trout and pulls the lead fly out and now you have a foul hooked trout. It has happened to me a few times (mostly on larger fish) and it is frustrating so now I normally keep the dropper tag long.

Posted on: 2012/2/9 15:42


Re: Early Season BWO's

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I will say my primary goal is to have the fish look up and see the dry and be lazy and take the nymph.

I think if a fish takes the nymph I don't have this issue. And I have the bonus of my dry acting like an indicator.

Posted on: 2012/2/10 11:06
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Re: Early Season BWO's

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I fish two dries that way alot. Also Effective using a dry and a harder to see emerger. I prefer more distance between my flies, not only for the reduced foul hook rate, but also for better a better drift.

Posted on: 2012/2/10 14:27


Re: Early Season BWO's

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I was thinking about giving two dries a try. Maybe a 22 GN and a Comparadun BWO when they start hatching soon. I appreciate the ideas guys. Thanks to all.

Posted on: 2012/2/10 14:45


Re: Early Season BWO's

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Good luck!

Posted on: 2012/2/10 14:47


Re: Early Season BWO's

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That would be extremely hard to cast and keep on the water I would think.

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Re: Early Season BWO's

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csoult,
Two dries or a dry dropper? Or something else?

Posted on: 2012/2/10 14:56


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Two dries

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Re: Early Season BWO's

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Not at all. Its quite easy, as long as you don't have too long of a trailing tipper or too short of one. Additionally it makes sense to put the bigger fly first then the smaller fly. I tie the trailing dry to the eye of the leading dry. Its great for fishing larger water where multiple hatches are coming off and you can't tell for sure which fly the trout are keyed on. It is also helpful for fishing smaller dries at a distance, as you can watch the lead fly to tell how close your flies are in relation to the rise, and for emergers it acts as an indicator and goes under when they take the emergent dropper.

Give it a whirl, you'll be sure to get a tangle or two, but it is far from prohibitive. Another good tactic is using a dry with a spent wing spinner, which are often harder to see in the water anyway.

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:04


Re: Early Season BWO's

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Do you have more of a problem with drag?

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:07
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Re: Early Season BWO's

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I really like the two dry concept especially like you said when there are multiple hatches. One thing I intend to try this summer is a sunken trico spinner off a dry dropper. Probably an ant but TBD.

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:07



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