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Dry Dropper

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I beleive there are times and places for all tactics.

As the waters start to be come lower and perhaps clearer I believe that the dry dropper becomes a bigger part of my arsenal.

I always used to just tie my dropper right off the eye of my dry and then split it between the eye and bend. Now, I have been using the tag ends to tie the dry.

Question: Is there a method you use? WHY?

Is there a method you would use in one situation and not another?

Big dries seem to work just fine in holding up with the dropper on-certainly a great way to indicator fish.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 10:17
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Re: Dry Dropper

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Off the bend.

It helps balance my poorly tied flies by putting more weight to the rear from my heavy-hackle jobs.

Doing them off the eye makes it look funny to me, I've also used double and triple surgeon's loops to tie multiple fly casts, but I'm pretty sure that the loops severely weaken and are apt to snap.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 10:19
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And why not?


Re: Dry Dropper

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I fish swimming nymphs (like isos and drakes) primarily dry/dropper under a dun of the same species. I also like to do the same with sulphur emergers and soft hackles. I figure that it's a good time to fish a dry, and those types of subsurface flies are best fished throughout the water column.

Another system I use is the dry/damp as I call it. I use an elk hair caddis, stonefly, or stimmy with a tiny foam ant dropper. The ant usually sits in the film, and I just look for any type of disturbance around the front fly. Sometimes the takes are so delicate that I feel like I am seeing things.

I also like to fish zebra midges as a dropper under a likely dry fly. They fish best at a foot or two deep for me, so I feel that it's the best way.

Dual dries are standard for me. I see no reason to just fish one.

I tie it off the bend, but occasionally tie it to the eye as well. For nymphs, all droppers are off the eye for me.

I do not use tag ends for attaching flies on "constriction" knots, such as a clinch. It's doomed to failure when you apply pressure. Try tying nymphs off a tag next time and notice how many you lose to the rocks without much of a fight.

More on that and tons of general dropper info:
http://www.flyguysoutfitting.com/droppers.html

Posted on: 2010/6/9 10:21


Re: Dry Dropper

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I have always just tied it off the bend as well. I think it keeps everything in line and helps the dry not get pulled under. 2 wets I would tie at an angle though. I fish a dry dropper far more often than I do just a nymph.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 10:27


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Why not off the dropper? Would that put less weight/ptressure on the dry fly?

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Re: Dry Dropper

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why not "what" off the dropper?

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Did'nt sound like people are tying their dries to the tag ends.

Sounds like striaght off the end of their leaders and then they proceed from there. Where do you use your dry dropper rigs?

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Re: Dry Dropper

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I see what you're getting at, but I still don't do it. Tying flies to tag ends is a recipe for knot failure, as I stated and linked to above. It just keeps tightening the knot until the mono fails.

A dropper loop on such a rig could be nice.

I fish them when I am covering lots of water of varying depth, or in low flows.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 10:51


Re: Dry Dropper

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I don;t like to tie the dropper in front of a floating fly...if the dry sinks it goes head first. I (whether true or not) think its an unnatural presentation. If the trailing nymph tied to the bend happens to pull the dry under a little, its butt first and it'll still stay afloat pretty well and more naturally. Just me.

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Re: Dry Dropper

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Paul,

Are you suggesting a rig like this?

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Yes, correct.

Seems like the best way to me- better than off the bend. But as noted, people have stated why they would do it differently- that is what I am trying to figure- see if I can be swayed.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 11:16
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I'm going to give that a shot next time out. Seems to me that getting a good drift on the dry could be an issue, but I'm curious.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 11:18


Re: Dry Dropper

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I guess it would depend on which fly you give priority. In jays image the nymph clearly controls the dries drift. And by tying off the bend the dry will dictate where the nymph will be.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 11:25


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Quote:

jayL wrote:
I'm going to give that a shot next time out. Seems to me that getting a good drift on the dry could be an issue, but I'm curious.



I often rig up 2 nymphs with a dropper off the main line like in Jay's diagram. Sure as xxxxx I'll see a fish rise in front of me. Out of convenience, I'll nip off my nymph from the dropper, and tie on a dry to cover the riser. I never seem to do very well when fishing a dry like that, maybe it's the drift, I really don't know. I can tell you that mending the dry doesn't work since the end of the tippet is submerged.

Jay, I'm going to experiment more with the rig when the fish are rising to dries and see if the rig works well or not. Maybe we can compare notes.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 11:31


Double the fun

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Jay- that drift needs some floatant. Ha.

I dont see my rigs sinking that much or creating that much drag.

In the summer there are going to be less hatches, at least during the day- unless it's rainey. heheh

I would use this rig as a prospector- like terrestrial fishing. Double your chances.

Posted on: 2010/6/9 11:36
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