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Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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I've caught wild trout in just about every stream that "seems" or "looks" like it should have wild fish.

I supposedly live in a part of the state that has almost no wild trout.

Posted on: 2013/5/13 18:39


Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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One of my favorite things to hear: <insert cenrl Pennsivanya accent> "Thur ain't noe feesh in 'at thur crick!" - practically a sure fire assurance of the contrary (and no crowds).

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Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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You might be surprised by the sizes of the the streams (widths) where you will find greatest abundances of legal size brook trout per mile in Pa. At least one of them is not wide; I am not sure about the other. Big holes are not the key characteristic; nor is fertility.

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Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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You might be surprised by the sizes of the the streams (widths) where you will find greatest abundances of legal size brook trout per mile in Pa. At least one of them is not wide; I am not sure about the other. Big holes are not the key characteristic; nor is fertility.


What is (are) the key characteristic(s)?

Posted on: 2013/5/13 22:45


Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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You may never see an angler on many streams, even places like the Kettle Creek BTE area, but if you look for trails you will see that many are fished. I've fish Upper Kettle Many times, and have still not seen anyone else fishing it in the upper sections. I know they do because it's talked about, but I'm never seen them, now I've jinxed myself.

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Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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No trail along white house run, I know because I walked up the stream.

Several streams like this have no trail.

Posted on: 2013/5/13 22:58


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I have many secret gems, and a few prototype streams I plan on fishing. I do my research and study maps in my area but its the planning and adventure that makes it wicked fun.

Posted on: 2013/5/14 2:21


Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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Nobody wants to fish stream "so-so" when they could be fishing a now super famous stream.


Speak for yourself. In fact, I'd rather fish a small "so-so" stream than one of those "special" places. Super famous, whatever.

K-bob. It is true that you (or I) rarely see another angler on them, but isn't that a good thing?

People suck. Crowds of people suck even more. If I want to bet back to nature, I don't want to see other people, and I try not to leave any sign that I was there and will even try to remove sign (litter) that others were.

Don't assume anything.

Posted on: 2013/5/14 6:18
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Dave yes I appreciate areas with no trash on stream, where I would be truly surprised to encounter another fisherman. Good thing, and there are so many streams like white house run within a doable drive of me that I dont think it will change.

Key factor in this is that the brook trout, sometimes viewed as a fragile species, is actually a tough little devil that will live with there are no other fish and there's not not too much for them to eat. Too acidic for brown trout, and not many aquatic insects? Still can be brookies. Few or no bait fish because there are so few aquatic insects? Still can be brookies -- and they are adapted to surviving on terrestrials and will chase a dry fly.... Many of these little streams in NE PA stay cold enough all summer for brookies.

on streams like these, it never even occurs to me that I might be fishing behind someone: never happened.... I heard clear sound last time I fished one of the streams, and my only thought was is that a deer or is that a bear? never even occurred to me that would be a person.

on some of the better known, easier access, more spectacular brookie streams, I only go there with thought of trying to reduce the chances of fishing behind someone.... and after I have fished a well known or more spectacular stream a certain number of times, I'd rather catch fewer fish on a new one....

Mike k if you are out there, could you guess at the total number of streams in Pennsylvania that have wild brook trout?

Posted on: 2013/5/14 7:29


Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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It seems to follow that if you have a healthy watershed and main stream that you will find numerous tribs that hold native brookies and wild trout.

The Lehigh and the Loyalsock are my favorites, the Nescopeck above I-80 has many tribs with wild trout. My most favorite outing from all of last year was bushwacking 3 miles down into a gorge and fishing a Loyalsock trib. Caught brookie after brookie and finally a beautiful 12-inch wild brown far down into the gorge.

When you combine hiking with wild trout fishing you get the best of both worlds. I too get a kick out of mapping and planning, I have a quite few folders saved with secret destinations.

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Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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k-Bob, I'm glad Whitehouse is not a stream that i am familiar with or I'd probably be annoyed by now.

My stomping grounds were NWPA, and most of the streams I fish(ed) are on the natural reproduction list. I was a little bit disappointed to see that, but in a couple of ways, it is better if all of them are on there instead of just a few. Better for those few at least.

When I was a kid, my way of finding a new stream was get out the USGS topo maps. It definitely was more work then.

Posted on: 2013/5/14 11:16
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Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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lf these streams are not 'listed' what are the regs for taking brookies ?

I ask, cos it has occurred to me more than once that i find a thin blue line with lots of small brookies i wonder that if i thinned them a little whether that would 'grow' a bigger fish or two ?

the couple of streams i used to fish i used to go late fall with a rake and clear dead leaves from the gravel, remove deadfall, prop up a bank or two - even got Mrs GB out there too, to help the streams as much as we could.

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Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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lf these streams are not 'listed' what are the regs for taking brookies ?

I ask, cos it has occurred to me more than once that i find a thin blue line with lots of small brookies i wonder that if i thinned them a little whether that would 'grow' a bigger fish or two ?

the couple of streams i used to fish i used to go late fall with a rake and clear dead leaves from the gravel, remove deadfall, prop up a bank or two - even got Mrs GB out there too, to help the streams as much as we could.


The regs are the state-wide regs.

What does "prop up a bank or two" mean?

Posted on: 2013/5/14 12:01


Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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"k-Bob, I'm glad Whitehouse is not a stream that i am familiar with or I'd probably be annoyed by now."

I mentioned white house run because I fished it recently and it's small, unlisted, brushy, public, and has some fish, but is no way a great or even a really good brookie stream.

Eight foot wide brookie streams aren't rare in NE PA... There are a heck of a lot of steams like the one shown in my post #8 this thread. My guess is that many of them are better than WHR. (Most of the unlisted streams I fished in the last year had at least some wild trout.)

I wanted to see if anyone else here had fished white house ... so far no one says they have, and I cant really recommend it.

Anyone who has bothered to fish white house run probably knows much better ones than WHR -- and they probably know better ones than I do...










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Re: brookie streams that no one fishes

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"Anyone who has bothered to fish white house run probably knows much better ones than WHR -- and they probably know better ones than I do...



I find this so funny. Only because when I started fishing with k-bob we would talk about where to go and such, and I would always ask about the the fishing and he would say, you are about the catching. He was right but after maybe 6 months of fishing with him my definition of "better" ones would involve more than the fishing. Thanks Bob, you've screwed me up now!

Posted on: 2013/5/14 14:02



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