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Re: Unicorn

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Wow, that really is an amazing brookie. Hard to believe it is a wild fish but every feature indicates it is one, at least to me. looks to be around 14-15" but thats only guessing, what a fish!

Posted on: 10/23 22:23


Re: Unicorn

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Wow, very jealous of that fish, great job! And even more interesting about the nature of where you found it. I would've thought "spawning run" from a larger body of water but thermal refuge makes complete sense if you're seeing them in the summer.

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I'm impressed

Posted on: 10/23 22:56


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Congrats! That is an amazing fish.

Posted on: 10/24 7:29
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That's what I call a 'Panic Fish' The kind of brookie you catch and know you have something that very few will ever get their hands on. Panic sets in as you think 'nobody is going to believe this without a pic!!' haha.

Posted on: 10/24 8:29


Re: Unicorn

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That is balls. Nice fish, Sal.

Posted on: 10/24 11:53


Re: Unicorn

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Appreciate all the kudos.
But seriously this fish took little skill to catch. I'm fact he swam 10-15' upstream with his back out of the water to take my skittering caddis.

This fish is just amazing when you consider how old it must be and what it did to survive this long.

My favorite trout caught to date for sure.

What a beauty. Had to share it with you guys, in fact, while I was looking at it I thought to myself how much Chaz would have loved this one.

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This shows that brookies can grow big, when they have the opportunity.

I've read things on this website and others saying that brookies can't grow big because the big brookie genetics were lost. And others said that they didn't even grow big "back in the day," and that the historical accounts of big brookies were just "romantic," exaggerations, not accurate accounts.

This and other large brookies caught in PA show that these "theories" are bunk.

If the habitat is good and they are allowed to grow for years, rather than getting ripped out and killed, they can grow big.





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Re: Unicorn

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Preach it, Dwight

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Re: Unicorn

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Amen Dwight!

I totally agree with you. I'm fact, again I have theories of my own to this particular fish, watershed and main watershed.

Funny enough I caught a 13" brookie in the main river in the late spring.
When these fish have access to a larger watershed in their range, they can be suprising growers. The transitional water areas of larger watersheds have a suprising amount of life in them to feed on.

Using the Savage River Study it showed those brook trout will move miles to breed. I would be willing to bet, in a 5 mile stretch up and down stream of this stream you will find more large brookies in small streams running into the main river.
Maybe not in all, not in great numbers but enough to have one back of a season.
Something I plan on exploring.

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Re: Unicorn

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Dang!!!!! Just amazing, wow.

Posted on: 10/24 20:13


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I've been thinking about this fish all week!

We've long discussed the well known - but not well understood - reality of brown trout migration from big creeks and rivers to smaller tribs that happens seasonally. Brookie behavior of this sort is certainly plausible too and this fish really tweaks our curiosity about this.

Posted on: 10/24 20:51


Re: Unicorn

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Quote:

Dave_W wrote:
I've been thinking about this fish all week!

We've long discussed the well known - but not well understood - reality of brown trout migration from big creeks and rivers to smaller tribs that happens seasonally. Brookie behavior of this sort is certainly plausible too and this fish really tweaks our curiosity about this.


Yes it is, and don't forget about migrating in and out of lakes.

Here is an interesting short article. Its from Wisconsin, but still applicable.

Michigan is also jumping on board efforts to restore the coasters.

They were once found in Lake Erie tributaries as well, including the Chagrin in Ohio. But likely not in big numbers.


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Re: Unicorn

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Farmer,

Yes. Over the years I have been trying different combinations of criteria to search for fish like this.
I have had mixed results on lake run brookies in PA. I found some but not many.
Brook trout are sensitive to compietion and falling victim to being prey. IMO PA lakes are too diverse in being stocked and having a wide array of other fishes, that it's not as viable is I had hoped, but it does happen.

I also tied Susquehanna river tribs. I believe the Susquehanna bass and the pollution keep them away. I struck out bad there.

This new combination I've tried I'm 1 for 2 on.
I'm willing to discuss in greater detail off forum.

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Re: Unicorn

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I agree with your assessment of PA lake run brook trout, especially inland lakes. You won't find many at least not on public waters.

Chaz likely knows of a few, but I'm not asking.

I may ask to fish with him some day though. I need to retire, first.




Posted on: 10/25 8:35
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