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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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I'm thinking that would better cover my butt than simply not posting.


Agreed, there is something to be said for using your brain. But as for law, there are more protections, just not as great as I originally saw it. To sum up:

Posted land:

Invited: Protections of an invitee
Permission: Protections of a licensee
Trespasser: Protections of a trespasser

Unposted land:

Invited: Protections of an invitee
Permission: Protections equivalent of a trespasser, this is where RULWA helps!
Trespasser: No such thing.

There's still that tricky "attractive nuisance" thing that can turn a licensee or trespasser into an invitee real quick.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 13:59


Re: The future of fly-fishing

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However, where the land is open only to selected people rather than to the public in general, this will weigh against RULWA immunity.


I went back and read that, and I don't think they are talking about posted while granting select permission in that context.

i'm gonna look into that.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 14:02
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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I went back and read that, and I don't think they are talking about posted while granting select permission in that context.


What context would it be in? Posted but granting certain people permission sounds exactly like

"the land is open only to selected people rather than to the public in general"

to me.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 14:05


Re: The future of fly-fishing

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Its all totally insane, when a young atty graduates from law school he should be able to practice anywhere in the country, with the exact same law books and reference books

anything else is crap to confuse the citizens and enrich the legal profession.

NO REBUTTAL

everything is skewed to the benefit the legal profession even the statute of limitations

just frikkin nuts

do they have controlling interest in VASELINE too


here is a project for the www slueths

post the citizens per lawyer in 1950

then the same figures for today

i

Posted on: 2010/2/24 14:07
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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pcray1231 wrote:
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I'm thinking that would better cover my butt than simply not posting.


Agreed, there is something to be said for using your brain. But as for law, there are more protections, just not as great as I originally saw it. To sum up:

Posted land:

Invited: Protections of an invitee
Permission: Protections of a licensee
Trespasser: Protections of a trespasser

Unposted land:

Invited: Protections of an invitee
Permission: Protections equivalent of a trespasser, this is where RULWA helps!
Trespasser: No such thing.



I guess i am with you up to here.

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There's still that tricky "attractive nuisance" thing that can turn a licensee or trespasser into an invitee real quick.


This is only true with non-adults.

Of course if I put up singns that said "Nudist Camp, No- Trespassing" I'm not sure how that would work out.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 14:10
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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I went back and read that, and I don't think they are talking about posted while granting select permission in that context.


What context would it be in? Posted but granting certain people permission sounds exactly like

"the land is open only to selected people rather than to the public in general"

to me.


I think I was having a little brain fart.

I looked it up in my link and it was about the same. The more restrictive, the less likely it applies. It's just too gray.

What I was thinking is that if I post and I give permission to anyone smart enough to ask, that isn't being very restrictive. It aint my fault if most people are too stupid to ask.

now If I restricted it to fly fishing only... now that might be considered quite restrictive in some circles.

the laws are different in Ohio, at least for hunting and I think also for fishing. You have to have written permission regardless if the land is posted or not. that is the way it should be. And they also have protection from liability for recreational use. The way it should be.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 14:21
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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1950, one lawyer for every 675 people
2009 one lawyer for (approx) every 300 people

Posted on: 2010/2/24 14:55


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thank you

that explains just about everything

from memory it seems that the 50s were our country's greatest and most productive years, isn't that strange

soon we will need an atty before we hit the lever after taking a crap
(in addition to the tattoo on the ladies)

Posted on: 2010/2/24 15:33
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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from memory it seems that the 50s were our country's greatest and most productive years, isn't that strange


Do you realize what kind of advances we've made in technology, communication, and medicine since then?

Please. The golden age syndrome is out of control.

Because you are unwilling or unable to understand the modern world, does not mean that anything is wrong with everyone else. There's a much simpler reason why you don't understand things. Keep lookin'.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 15:34


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if the poster directly above thinks the country is better of today than in the 50s, that explains why he will not pay a landowner for access to his land.

brain lockdown

if there is a brain to lock.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 15:40
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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soon we will need an atty before we hit the lever after taking a crap


well, aparently you never sat on a cracked toilet seat or you wouldn't be joking about that.

OK, maybe you would.

Made me want to laugh and cry at the same time.

Pain and suffering? Hell yea, dern seat wouldn't let go, either.


Posted on: 2010/2/24 15:41
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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Ask a black man for his thoughts.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 15:42


Re: The future of fly-fishing

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I am going to sue the azz of everyone because there are no left handed toliets


for the imposter above I was in the service with hundreds
great bunch of guys

in separate barracks which wasn't good but there were zero problems

Posted on: 2010/2/24 15:43
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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jayL wrote:
Ask a black man for his thoughts.


Oh come on Jay, that old adage isn't true. Oh wait, you were responding to LJ. never mind.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 15:46
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Re: The future of fly-fishing

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I am going to sue the azz of everyone because there are no left handed toliets



Beloney. they are all left handed. It's the only thing we got.

Posted on: 2010/2/24 15:48
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