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Re: Spot Burning...Gim me a break

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Posted on: 2010/6/18 13:29


Re: Spot Burning...Gim me a break

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the wisdom of wisemen holds true, you argue with an idiot, they just drag you to their level and beat you with experience...

Posted on: 2010/6/18 13:32
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Re: Spot Burning...Gim me a break

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well i fish alone 90 percent of the time...


There's a shocker!

Posted on: 2010/6/18 13:36


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Yes i mis-read your post. Sorry its hard between the flooding of my inbox.

I just wondering how long the mods will let you be insulting. I dont think anyone has been that way to you on the board as of yet.

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Re: Spot Burning...Gim me a break

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Tom - its convenient... but dont worry i have a friend or two...

Posted on: 2010/6/18 13:38
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Well, then, there you have the solution: when someone outs your secret stream, go find a new one and leave your special water to all the new folks to enjoy. End of discussion, right?





For those that claim that posting a report on the Internet does not generate angler traffic, read this thread from a New Jersey based FFing site:

http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulletin ... -valley-forge-6-12-a.html

To make things clear, the poster has the right to post about the stream, and there have been many threads about Valley Creek on this site, while in the New Jersey site, I rarely see Valley mentioned. Also, the stream runs through a National Park and is open to the public. My only point, after reading some of the responses, is that POSTING DRIVES TRAFFIC. For every one that posted there are 100 people that read this, you do the math.

I didn’t just blindly pick out this stream. I fish it quite a bit and consider it my “home” stream. I’ve been fishing it for over 20 years and the pressure on the stream has been unbelieveable as of late. While I’m sure other factors contribute, anyone that believes the Internet does not drive people to a stream is kidding themselves.

Jack stated that the solution is to move on to other waters, well this is the closest stream to where I live, and unfortunately 80% of my fishing is just sneaking out for a few hours when I have the time to a stream close to home. If I lived in an area with more options, perhaps I can find another spot and bail when IT gets outted out…lol.

Like I stated above, my only intention for this post was to show that the Inernet has an impact on the pressure a stream receives.

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Afish,

I dont think anyone is saying that it doesnt add traffic. I think the basic argument is that it takes traffic from somewhere else. In this case streams in NJ.

Then again I see no mention of how this angler found out about Valley. It does not mention that he found out about it from this forum or another. Nor does it mention that any of the posters that replied visited the stream based on his report.

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And my closest stream is a put and take sewer pit. It sees much more traffic than twenty years ago without anyone posting about it.

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Afish..I think most anglers fishing time is exactly what you mention....sneaking out for a bit...

THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON I"VE COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS ISSUE WITH ONE PERSON!

most guys dont have the luxury to fish 24/7 and can only sneak out for a few hours at a time to their "home" waters.

very good insight added...

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salvelinusfontinalis wrote:
Afish,

I dont think anyone is saying that it doesnt add traffic. I think the basic argument is that it takes traffic from somewhere else. In this case streams in NJ.


Read Afish's post. It doesn't change the fact that he's without a place to fish!

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Then again I see no mention of how this angler found out about Valley. It does not mention that he found out about it from this forum or another.


Afish's point was that you should read the replies. Nobody's wondering where the OP found about it, but 6 or so posts afterward are people claiming that they've been convinced to go.

Posted on: 2010/6/18 13:51


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Afish..I think most anglers fishing time is exactly what you mention....sneaking out for a bit...

THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON I"VE COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS ISSUE WITH ONE PERSON!

most guys dont have the luxury to fish 24/7 and can only sneak out for a few hours at a time to their "home" waters.

very good insight added...


So other people in the area shouldn't be permitted to fish it to keep it uncrowded for you?
It is in a high population area, correct? Wouldn't that mean many people who fish it are doing the same 1 or 2 hours or local fishing?

Posted on: 2010/6/18 13:52


Re: Spot Burning...Gim me a break

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David wrote:
And my closest stream is a put and take sewer pit. It sees much more traffic than twenty years ago without anyone posting about it.


How's that relevant?

Does it refute the fact that posting would increase traffic?

Again, isn't it obvious that public advertising of a wild trout stream, on a site that attracts and fosters wild trout fishermen going to increase traffic?

And the question is whether it's tasteful to make that post.

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They did not jay. The one guy said he wanted to fish it for years but has never gone. The other guy said he hiked all over with the scouts in the past. A few replies about pics but nothing about people wanting to go. I did read them. did you?

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cmkrachen wrote:
Tom - its convenient...


So was the joke...now stop PMing me...I do not wish to fish with you. Sorry, I am married.

Posted on: 2010/6/18 13:53


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but 6 or so posts afterward are people claiming that they've been convinced to go.


God bless that young fellow for bringing joy to six anglers with a single post!

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