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Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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>>I'm puzzled as to why Pa has a separate Fish Commission, Game Commission and a Dept of Conservation and Natural Resources.
A single State Dept should be able to operate all with better efficiency, less bureaucracy and less political "red tape". >>

You may have not spent enough time studying the ways and habits of the Pennsylvania Legislature. Both Commissions, if they are to make resource-based rather than politically-based policy decisions have always needed some amount of insulation from the PA Legislature.

A particularly ironic question to ask given the present situation, I might add.


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Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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Same ole' PA.
Somehow in NY, they found away to drastically reduce the price of recreational licenses without impacting services and product. THis was done when the Governor took the lead and sold it as an economic stimulus.

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They'll put a term limit on that, but def not their own positions.

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Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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Quote:

SteveG wrote:
They'll put a term limit on that, but def not their own positions.


LOA! very true and even pass a budget on time, and then fund it in a timely matter ll of them need to replaced. Why do something when it is not broken? =Too many waves in the pool.
Even better way to get the sportsmen stirred up and hide a funding program.

Posted on: 10/25 21:25


Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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From all I've ever known or read about my opinion of Mr. Arway has always been high. I feel he truly has a lot of knowledge, care, and respect for our state's waterways and his position. I'd hate to see a stupid squabble create a term limit just to get him out of the way when he is in the right..

Posted on: 10/26 6:35


Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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the politicians don't want someone doing the "right" job, they want a pawn they can push around to help their agenda, which has NOTHING to do with the health and care of streams, woodlands, or anything in the natural world. Their only agenda is money and power, nothing else.

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Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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So now the bill goes to the House?

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Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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We are all going to need to step up here and contact our representatives . No way in hell should any politician should be dictating term limits to PAFBC Commissioners.

Call, e-Mail, whatever, we need to push back on this.

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Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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"Further, during the months before the 2018 election Arway would tell voters which candidates were responsible for there being 240,000 fewer stocked trout."

Is this not this public record? Couldn't anyone look up who voted against the bill?

Posted on: 10/27 7:59


Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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The votes for SB 932 are now posted. I just saw that Senator Wagner, in my voting district voted in favor. Wagner is running for for governor. This bill seems vindictive to me. What else could it be?

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Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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Very.

Posted on: 10/27 16:54


Re: Reward for Being Responsible with Angler and Boater $

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I posted this to Rep. Eric Roe's FB page, though I don't see the entry. I'm also sending this to Rep. Andy Dinniman, who has been a friend of environmental concerns.

"I'm one of your supporting voters who is also an active conservationist and angler. I see that S.B. 935 passed the Senate last week, to my dismay. I believe the process passes the bill to your House next, and it would be good to quash this bill. It unfairly targets PFBC Director John Arway in limiting his term in his position. Mr. Arway has been doing an excellent job managing a difficult balance between a too low fishing license structure (which is long overdue for an increase) and maintaining fish stocking programs and safeguarding the environment and clean water. I hope you look into this matter on behalf of sportsmen and conservation organizations like Trout Unlimited, West Chester Fish, Game and Wildlife, and private fishing clubs.

Yours sincerely,
Lester Young"

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I responded similarly to my representative. I hope more members of this board are doing the same.

Please take a minute to call or e-Mail your legislators.

Posted on: 10/29 10:02
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Mt Sen is:

GAME AND FISHERIES
PATRICK J. STEFANO, Chair

He voted Yes. Should I write him a polite letter or should I shame him?

Posted on: 10/30 17:34
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Also, look how fast this bill progressed:

Introduced by Scarnati, et al. Oct. 19, 2017
Referred to GAME AND FISHERIES, Oct. 19, 2017
Reported as committed, Oct. 23, 2017
First consideration, Oct. 23, 2017
Second consideration, Oct. 24, 2017
Re-referred to APPROPRIATIONS, Oct. 24, 2017
Re-reported as committed, Oct. 24, 2017
Third consideration and final passage, Oct. 25, 2017 (34-16)

Posted on: 10/30 17:40
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