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Re: Reg's Question

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That's okay guys. I won't soon forget how only PatrickC (someone that only knows me through my posts) came to the defense of my character. I guess I know where I stand.


Easy now. It's our job to bust on you.

We wouldn't hang around you if you were a scoundrel. I'll go on record as describing you as a person of inestimable character. Just the fact that you've shown so much concern on this topic is further proof of that.

You've got nuthin' to prove to your friends - you're stuck with us.

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I would like to point out that the MOST COMMON WORD to follow "inestimable" in a sentence is the word "damage". Sooo, reading between the lines I think they're saying you have an inestimably damaging character?

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Re: Reg's Question

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I'll go on record as describing you as a person of inestimable character.


As this thread devolved in not knowing how to take statements made in text:

That could be taken either way... Just sayin.

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Re: Reg's Question

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Great minds Pcray....GREAT MINDS!!!!!

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Re: Reg's Question

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GREAT MINDS!!!!!


This is the internet. Those aren't allowed here.


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Yet another reason to get rid of FFO sections.


I'm not all out opposed to FFO. In general, I think it should be VERY lightly used. But it is lightly used, I'm cool with using it in the historically significant places that it is. Don't really think it's necessary to use in the name of conservation, though.

Overall, of the special regs, my favorite is AT C&R. Think that one can be justified as conservation without excluding anyone, and thus I'd give my blessing for the PFBC to use it liberally.

Above paradise was just a strange situation. It's PFBC owned water, under AT no-kill regs. Completely surrounded by state posted property (Rockview prison), except along the stream corridor, which was FFO. So by the letter of the law, you could not take anything not approved in FFO water to the PFBC owned AT water. Kind of defeats the purpose of having AT water if you ask me, why not just make it FFO up to the posted signs?

Eh, but that's in the past now. Spin and bait guys can access the area from the top without passing FFO water.


I know, I know you are a skilled bait fisherman, but bait fishing and C&R do not go hand in hand...a little lot wasteful IMO.
Bait fishing, practiced by most anglers, deep hooks an awful lot of fish, and releasing them to die is a waste, IMO. Bait fishing should be allowed in harvest areas only.

I bait fished for a lot of years and have watched others bait fish over those many years. I would estimate I deep hooked more fish in one year bait fishing than adding up all the years I have Fly-fished.

I can't seem to find it anymore, but a report from the Missouri F&G Department, where they run trout fishing parks with FF, ALO & bait fishing regulations in different sections of the Park. It's C&R until the fish reaches 15". Long and short, the report states that 80% of the fish die in the bait section and it has to be restocked at a rate 3 to 4 times more than the FF or ALO sections. They even list instructions on tight-line bait fishing.

Nothing against baiters, just take them home and enjoy your catch. Use artificial lures or flies if you wish to practice C&R.




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WHAT??? They can't post it on the internet if it ain't true

Sorry for my board insanity today. I'm SC and it's pouring rain. The waves on the beach are pounding and my buddy with the boat said..."Let's wait until tomorrow." There are NO brown trout streams near by to fish in the rain. And as much as I lover the 4 ladies in my world...they are starting to get a little crazy here in the condo. MUST GET OUT TO FISH....

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Re: Reg's Question

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Ahem.

From Webster's:

Definition of INESTIMABLE
1: incapable of being estimated or computed
2: too valuable or excellent to be measured or appreciated

In the interest of quality Fox busting, carry on. Just remember, he practices voodoo.

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Oh I understand what the definition is. I simply pointed out where it is used most commonly...preceding the word "damage." I'm not sayin'....I'm just sayin'

Posted on: 2013/7/2 10:37
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Afish, I'm pretty much 100% fly fisherman now. But on a % basis, I probably deep hook more with flies now than I ever did with bait. Which is, a very small % either way.

A lot of it is what type of bait you're using though. Worms = very bad. Powerbait/corn = bad. Eggs = medium. Minnies = not so bad. My typical was strung live minnow rigs, with a single hook in the lips and a single through the tail. Wasn't that different than using streamers, drift, strip, drift, strip, then the rod doubles over. Probably the biggest concern, regarding harming the fish, was that extra hook. If they hooked themselves on the front hook the rear hook would wave around and occasionally grab an unintended piece of fish. But if you didn't use the 2nd hook, you don't hook them unless you let them eat it for a while, which leads to more deep hooking.

Same goes with fly fishing I guess. If you fish a lot of midges/tricos, it's much more of a problem than it is with bigger flies. The worst for me is midge pupa. Nymphing, so sometimes you don't notice the hit as quick as you'd like, and they inhale those little things quickly. Not unsual to hook them as deep as the gills.

Anyway, I tend to think beginners/occasional fishermen are the ones who tend to do more deep hooking. They're also the ones harvesting. And they may be the majority among the bait crowd, but IMO, C&R regs already keep them away. Bait is allowed on Spring Creek, it's used often, and I certainly wouldn't say that stream suffers from too much mortality. I can't think of ANYWHERE with C&R regs where I think accidental fish mortality is a major problem.

Posted on: 2013/7/2 10:51


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The entire stream is wild rbowns, Don't know why it's stocked. I'm betting the club stocks the bows in the TT area.And PFBC want to expand the Co-op system, until they reign in the Co-ops from stocking where there isn't ATW, they should not expand the program.

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