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Re: Opening day angler counts

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My understanding is that the WCO doesn't want folks to take the time to walk buckets of trout up or down the stream from where the truck stops. The longer it takes to put those trout in the stream the more it impacts on driver time.

I would really like to see more float stocking. This allows those assisting with the stocking to spread the trout out and gives someone who doesn't want to fish with the crowds some hope of fishing over fish at points other than where the truck stops.

Posted on: 2013/3/28 18:00


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I would really like to see more float stocking. This allows those assisting with the stocking to spread the trout out and gives someone who doesn't want to fish with the crowds some hope of fishing over fish at points other than where the truck stops.


I agree. Around here, however, it can be difficult sometimes to find volunteers to do the actual float stocking.

Posted on: 2013/3/28 18:02


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i would have thought a discount on the fishing licence might encourage that...

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Maybe they could have sent us a letter inviting us to participate.

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i would have thought a discount on the fishing licence might encourage that...


If you need a discount on what is already a bargain, to help stock, you might be into fishing for the wrong reasons... Just sayin'

McSneek - as a lifelong (except for college) Lancaster County resident, I definitely sympathize with your farm ditch comment. Growing up, my Opening Day stream was Pequea Creek in eastern Lancaster County. It is definitely an impaired farm ditch there, but it started me down the road of trout fishing (along with a small dose of "natives" in Lycoming County). I just got done walking some stretches of Big Beaver Creek, also, undoubtedly a farm ditch. I hope to put my kids on some fish and give them an enjoyable experience reeling them in. That is all. I'm not dreaming of any of the stream becoming trout meccas. Unfortunately, for most stocked streams in Lancaster County, you simply need to lower your expectations, and then your expectations will be met Nothing wrong with folks near Park City crowding a stream that hasn't supported wild trout for a very long time, and getting a meal from it..

The float stocking aspect has been hit or miss, in my experience. I was majorly bummed a number of years ago when I was with a group that offered to float stock and the offer was rejected. On the other hand, I have helped float stock sections of Conowingo and Big Beaver already. Unfortunately, my mindset of wanting to walk a two mile stretch of stream and catch one or two fish in each hole is at odds with what I perceive to be the general stocked angling public's mindset, which is one of wanting to see buckets of trout in each hole, along with some Lightnin' (TM) Trout. And that's why I'm quite content to take my kids out in search of densely stocked streams for one day, and spend the majority of the rest of my days on wild waters.


Posted on: 2013/3/28 18:59


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pcray: A stream with good residency is an ideal one to float stock, meeting both your and my desires. The problem is that there are limited numbers of anglers willing to build float stocking boxes, tubs, or barrels and participate in the stockings. Anglers who desire to have the fish spread to a greater extent would benefit others and themselves by considering float stocking. I've even seen rubber rafts partially filled with water used for float stocking.


If anyone would like designs of the float stocking barrels that I have ripped off others and improved send me a pm. Works really well with low flows/shallow areas. These "boats" can easily be used by an individual versus the old wooden screen systems.

Posted on: 2013/3/29 1:27


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Maybe they could have sent us a letter inviting us to participate.

It's on their web site that they ask for help. A lettr to 800,000 anglers=$384,000. Not a good use of funds.

Posted on: 2013/3/29 6:56


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The last time I joined a stocking event, I did so out of a sense of obligation because the group organizing was calling out for volunteers. When I arrived near the stocking point, I was amazed at all the cars. I thought: "Why did they need to seem so desparate?" Then when I got to the area where volunteers were gathered, there were about one dozen-- all the other cars were anglers, staking out their position on the river, waiting for the volunteers to throw trout in.

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I too would like to see the fish spread out a bit. Do some research. Some streams are stocked early (the ATW up the road from me was stocked on 3/1). Even the dumb, feeble stockies are smart enough and strong enough to spread out in a month's time....they'll float stock themselves.

But, if you want to fish at the bridge hole in a lawn chair, choose a stream that was stocked this past week (but get there early).

Posted on: 2013/3/29 8:54


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I volunteer to help bucket/float stocking in NJ, and it does help spread fish out. The problem is getting volunteers on a consistent basis. You have to be there before the hatchery truck shows up 100% of the time or you impact the hatchery truck schedule. Can't be a now and again situation - have to make a commitment. We have one guy who has a transfer tank on a pick-up that allows dozens of places the big trucks can't get to to be stocked.

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Mike why do the paying anglers need to build the float stocking boxes? What are our licenses paying for. Frankly I refuse to help stock because if the fish commission can't get their crap together enough to stock what am I paying for. Complete and utter disorganization. So essentially you won't float it because that would actually require you to do something. Wow

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Angler count - my own unscientific observation - was very low where I was fishing here in Adams/Franklin County this morning.

Although cold, I was at a popular state park ATW where I usually start the season and the number of fishermen has seemed to me to be dropping for years......but it really seemed like there were few fishermen this morning.

Posted on: 2013/3/30 12:51


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Mike why do the paying anglers need to build the float stocking boxes? What are our licenses paying for. Frankly I refuse to help stock because if the fish commission can't get their crap together enough to stock what am I paying for. Complete and utter disorganization. So essentially you won't float it because that would actually require you to do something. Wow


Your licenses pay for trout. Volunteer labor stocks most of the trout. It's not that hard or expensive to build a float box. Perhaps the reason streams don't get floated is because a certain segment of the populace refuses to help?

Posted on: 2013/3/30 13:17


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Mike why do the paying anglers need to build the float stocking boxes? What are our licenses paying for. Frankly I refuse to help stock because if the fish commission can't get their crap together enough to stock what am I paying for. Complete and utter disorganization. So essentially you won't float it because that would actually require you to do something. Wow


Wow is right!

You have no idea what you are missing SNP. We have an army of guys spreading fish out along our watershed using trains,(yes trains), tractors, float boxes, and trailers. If you want a better experience with remote fishing for stocked trout you should consider getting involved or begin a stocking program. Sometimes all the locals need is some organization.

Don't blame the F&BC, you get your moneys worth the rest is up to you to contribute through volunteer support or cash support of a volunteer org in the area.

Otherwise you may consider trading your license dollar for a gift card at Giant and just buy the fish. I mean really, whats it all about anyway?


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Regarding angler counts...I got a call our own Mike K was prowling around downstream and was heading my way. I stuck around for a while and then fished a beat and never saw him. So they don;t get everyone.

Anyway, the area I was in has about 100 anglers, though I didn't count. There were people in all the green water, we found fish in between.

Great Day!

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