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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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KenU wrote:

A 2 fish per day (no size) limit would be nice. It would discourage those who feel they have to come home with a basket of trout every time they go out.


I agree. And the 2 fish per day proposal is not for a special regulation, but for a general state-wide regulation.

That's the way it is done in MD. The limit on unstocked trout waters there is 2 fish per day, state-wide.

That way it does not draw attention to particular streams.

Posted on: 2013/4/4 12:42


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Your position is the same as the "no stocking over wild fish" crowd.


I don't think that's true. Their view is basically that if it's on the natural reproduction list, it shouldn't be stocked. And that list includes not only classes A, B, and C, but also D and E. Our views differ on the lower end of this scale. Class E, low class D, etc. SHOULD be stocked, IMO.

And that's an awful lot of stream miles where we differ. Probably the majority of the stocked water in the state.

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But (Belushi voice here) Who do we care about, wild trout or wild trout fishermen?


I make no bones about it. Fishermen. The goal of the PFBC is/should be to maximize the recreational opportunities available to anglers.

Posted on: 2013/4/4 16:46


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pat yeah I could name some schuylkill cty streams that I'd wish were not stocked... if I were the only one involved. but people like the stockie fishing, and I can find unstocked wild trout water, or just hike away from the road on the ones that are stocked.

real world; there will be stocking. there are many more stockie-only than wild-only fishermen. there are so many streams with some wild trout that there will be stocking over wilds. calls to stock over the weaker C&D wild trout populations but not the stronger A&B populations seem to be based on concern over wild trout fishermen versus wild trout fish!

I actually think that the status quo isn't too bad.


Posted on: 2013/4/4 17:24


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Your position is the same as the "no stocking over wild fish" crowd.


I don't think that's true. Their view is basically that if it's on the natural reproduction list, it shouldn't be stocked. And that list includes not only classes A, B, and C, but also D and E. Our views differ on the lower end of this scale. Class E, low class D, etc. SHOULD be stocked, IMO.

And that's an awful lot of stream miles where we differ. Probably the majority of the stocked water in the state.


I'd certainly be happy with ending stocking on high Class D and above. And I think most other wild trout advocates would too. That would be a huge benefit to wild trout populations.

Class E means no wild trout.

Posted on: 2013/4/4 17:33


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what were debating about here, we have no control over, and the PFBC has made it very clear there intentions are to stop stocking class B trout streams by 2016 and reexamining C and D in the mean time. but i do believe the limestoners in state college would turn elbow to elbow if it just stopped i know id be out there

Posted on: 2013/4/4 20:06


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http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gone ... gies-prep-bass-real-world

While this article is about bass, I find it interesting how they want the fingerlings to acclimate to the natural world and diet before stocking them. Wouldn't it be nice if the trout that are stocked would be a little 'smarter', rather than going from pellets and raceways and right into the stream.

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While I knew when I posted this question it would generate some interesting debate.... Seems to me nobody seems to think stream enhancements and water quality are part of the equation...... Wouldn't more attention to water quality naturally generate better habitat for the fish thereby giving us more and a better quality fisherie???? I just think if the focus was more on habitat it would make for a better day streamside for both the worm dunkers and, the fly chuckers

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Peterm: The amount of steam enhancement that would be required to replace the stocking program with restored streams to the point of supporting somewhat equivalent wild trout populations would be cost prohibitive, even if it were physically possible and the money for the program still somehow existed.

Posted on: 2013/4/5 7:55


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Wouldn't more attention to water quality naturally generate better habitat for the fish thereby giving us more and a better quality fisherie???? I just think if the focus was more on habitat it would make for a better day


Frequently not.
Stream and habitat improvement projects have their place (I'm involved in many of them) but the fact of the matter is that the capability of a stream to hold wild trout is often a product of temperature rather than cover, bank stability, sediment control etc. Here in my neck of the woods in Adams County, we have a bunch of stocked trout streams and almost all of them don't hold fish after mid summer. These are tree covered, shaded streams that simply just get too warm. In fact, my local fly fishing only stream has had more improvement work than any other stream I'm familiar with - I have personally pounded a lot of rebar there - but in spite of all this work this section will never hold wild trout because it gets over 80 degrees in summer with no thermal refuge.
All the habitat work will never get wild trout if a stream just simply gets too warm.
I realize that you're making the assumption that we're talking about habitat work on streams with good quality cold water. However, since your thread is caps and exclamation points one tends to assume you mean to stop all stocking. It's worth remembering that many of our state's stocked stream sections have very few, if any, wild trout due to warm water. Removing them from the stocking list would simply result in no trout fishing on these streams and bigger crowds elsewhere.

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I think I'll go fishing.

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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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Peterm wrote:

Seems to me nobody seems to think stream enhancements and water quality are part of the equation......


I don't recall anyone stating that. We've simply been discussing another topic, i.e. fisheries management.

Water quality, physical habitat restoration, riparian buffers, etc. are also important topics. But just different topics than the one we've been discussing.

The fact that people are discussing topic A does not imply that they think topic B is unimportant.

We've had plenty of threads on habitat restoration, water quality etc. on here, so there is plenty of interest in those topics.

Posted on: 2013/4/5 8:28

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... Removing them from the stocking list would simply result in no trout fishing on these streams and bigger crowds elsewhere.


And in trying to make this point earlier, I was not implying that our precious little gems would get overrun. More likely, it will be those famous waters that no one minds mentioning. The brookie waters would still be nearly all your own.

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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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PennKev, you say "let the kids fish for bluegills in ponds" ?!? Reminds me of that Queen who once said "let them eat cake".

Posted on: 2013/4/5 14:26
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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Fishing for bluegills in ponds is what I did when I was a kid. And it was a lot of fun. And I still enjoy it. It's not a "low" form of fishing at all. It's some of the most fun fishing you can do. I think it's the best way to introduce young kids to fishing. Much better than stream fishing for trout, IMHO.

Posted on: 2013/4/5 14:41



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