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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I'm all for stocking streams that cannot support naturally reproducing trout. But we stock many miles of streams that have good populations of wild trout and would be much better if they weren't being stocked and plundered every spring.
I'm on board with this thinking.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 19:09
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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KenU wrote:
I'm all for stocking streams that cannot support naturally reproducing trout. But we stock many miles of streams that have good populations of wild trout and would be much better if they weren't being stocked and plundered every spring.
I'm on board with this thinking.

Agreed...

Posted on: 2013/4/3 19:17
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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And I cringe when I see so much arm-chair quarterbacking from people who only have their own personal preferences in mind when they advocate certain management policies.


I cringe at such statements.


Why? Does one person's opinion carry more weight than any other person's?
I am fine with voicing opinion, and appreciate hearing differing opinions, but should any one opinion become policy?


David, I agree with you 100%. There are many different options in trout management, and different options are in fact used in other places, so are worthy of discussion and consideration.

I was not cringing about anyone's sincere opinion on trout management. People have their opinions on these things, they have their reasons, and it CAN be a good discussion.

I was cringing at this statement: "I cringe when I see so much arm-chair quarterbacking from people who only have their own personal preferences in mind.."

I also cringed at an early statement that suggested that anyone who held a particular view on trout management must "feel privileged" or be on "a high horse."

And I stand by both cringes!

Posted on: 2013/4/3 19:50


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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KenU wrote:
I'm all for stocking streams that cannot support naturally reproducing trout. But we stock many miles of streams that have good populations of wild trout and would be much better if they weren't being stocked and plundered every spring.
I'm on board with this thinking.


Me too. It makes sense from the points of view of recreation, conservation, and saving money.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 19:58


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I cringe when I walk along my local Montgomery County streams , no amount of restoration will bring them near to being self sustaining fisheries, so any cold water action has to be from stocking. I smile when I see rising trout less than a half hour from home, even if it's just for a short time each year. But that's just my personal preference.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 20:50


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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Wouldn't work for many reasons. But there are certainly a lot of trout streams that are stocked that shouldn't be stocked.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 20:56
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It's time to stop stocking all wild trout streams no matter what Classification they are, and time to eradicate brown trout in some of our limestone streams and re-establish brookies in them.


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dumb question, but if these streams will never be cold water trout fisheries, what would live there ? - bass, suckers ?

Posted on: 2013/4/3 21:01
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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Bass , carp , sunnies , catfish, all the stuff I fished for as a kid , I would ride my wannabe Huffy Stingray and be gone until dinnertime, stalking the ponds and streams with hand dug worms and Zebco rods and reels. I was the lone fisherman in my family and still am to this day.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 21:31


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I understand the statement "don't stock over wild trout populations"
and I mostly agree with it.....I think the issue that the PFBC runs into is most anglers don't fish for wild trout. Particularly brookies that mostly run 5-8 inches in the streams in my area. Some class D streams fish well, some class A streams don't. It is very difficult to delineate what gets stocked just by class and being on the natural repro list.

For instance; I live in Clearfield, PA. Great native and wild trout fishing exists all around me. But within 20 miles of town there may be about 8 ATW give or take. All of these ATW hold native populations (except maybe the West Branch of Susq). I wish most of them weren't stocked, but I also realize license sales and revenue for PFBC from this area would drop off a cliff if these streams weren't stocked. The best native fishing I have found recently is actually not on ATW so it doesn't bother me too much that others get to enjoy something I don't really agree with.

Overall, I am in the minority and I know this. The country/state/local government is run by the majority (or is supposed to be). It is completely out of line to think that my opinion as a wild/native fly fisherman trumps all of the other trout fisherman in my area.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 21:54


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I'd like to see more "wild trout" streams,DHALO,fly only sections and more protection for them. But the streams that are put and take only that can't support wild trout need to stay. Think of the kids and the future of fishing.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 22:01
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While some of you may cringe at my cringing, I ask that you look at who is enjoying the recreation of trout fishing. Are they predominantly wild trout enthusiasts? Clearly the opposite, but you will rationalize that cutting out 90% of anglers from enjoyment is OK because, afterall, you are on the side of nature and goodness. This is how the battles for small victories are lost in my opinion.

Posted on: 2013/4/3 22:27
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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While some of you may cringe at my cringing, I ask that you look at who is enjoying the recreation of trout fishing. Are they predominantly wild trout enthusiasts? Clearly the opposite, but you will rationalize that cutting out 90% of anglers from enjoyment is OK because, afterall, you are on the side of nature and goodness. This is how the battles for small victories are lost in my opinion.


When it comes to angler trips I would bet bottom dollar this statement is incorrect.

I don't think people have an issue with stocking marginal streams. Its not so common sense apparently.

Posted on: 2013/4/4 3:54
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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Think of the kids and the future of fishing.


They'd fish for bluegills, bass, perch etc???

Stocked trout aren't neccesary to teach kids fishing or get them hooked on the sport.

I fished for several years with my dad before even having a desire to fish for for trout. I even fly fished for a couple years before fishing for trout.

Kev

Posted on: 2013/4/4 6:42


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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For me, stocked trout was definitely a step along the way. Yeah, I started on farm ponds, not trout. But I probably wouldn't have kept with it without stocked trout.

Posted on: 2013/4/4 6:51


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I was definitely a bass guy. In fact, I wanted nothing to do with fly fishing until I heard that you can fish for smallies with a fly rod. I tolerated trout on family vacations and stuff, but my summers were spent on the Conestoga targetting bronze backs.

Everyone is different though. My brother and dad were drawn to trout. Even now, I think I'd have a very hard time convincing my dad to join me on a SMB fishing trip, especially when he knows he could be catching trout instead.

Posted on: 2013/4/4 8:11



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