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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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In Pennsylvania we call stream bred brown trout wild and stream bred brook trout native.


These terms are not just used in PA. The term "wild" means streambred in other regions also.

Some streams have self-supporting trout populations, others don't.

So it's useful to have terms that distinguish between trout that were raised in a hatchery then trucked to the stream (hatchery or stocked trout or stockies) vs the trout that are part of a stream's self-sustaining, self-reproducing popululation (wild).

Regarding brook trout, they are a species that is native to PA, while brown trout and rainbow trout are not.

The question of whether or not a stream was "ever stocked" may be interesting, but it isn't relevant to the terms discussed above.

Posted on: 2009/10/17 19:35


Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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Spent most of my fishing time teaching my 12 yr old the finer points.

His 12in wild brown from Hickory Run and 7-8"wild brookie from

Bowman's Creek that he hooked, played ,and landed on flies he tied

himself were better than any fish i've ever landed or might land in

the future.

Posted on: 2009/10/17 19:44


Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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With the rare wet, cool Summer, I concentrated on smaller freestones all season, so I'm grateful to whomever came up with the phrase, "Size Doesn't Matter."

Both of these were from Maryland. They may not have been my biggest but are close enough, and I have no idea as to measurements (a convenient omission).

Brook Char, Maryland

Brown Trout, Maryland

Posted on: 2009/10/17 19:55


Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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A trout is wild if it is spawned and born in a stream in Pennsylvania. Not all browns came from Germany, that is a myth. They came from all over Europe and that is evidenced by the fact that they have charactoristics of many of the varieties of brown trout from all over Europe.
As for my largest native, I'd say about 12 inches. I'm very disappointed that I haven't caught any brookies larger than 15 inches this year, but I know where they are and the year isn't over. Wild brown and bow 16.

Posted on: 2009/10/18 15:24
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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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not being smart here but how do u tell a stockie that has been in the water a few yrs verses a wild one ? the color ? i never knew there were wild browns , because they all come from a stocked trout at some point , brookies are wild i thought since they were never "put" here by man !!!

Posted on: 2009/10/18 18:23


Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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What if a fish is born in a creek but is fed pellets... is he/she wild?

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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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I would call it a pet.

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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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What does food source have to do with being streambred? Are we going to have to dignify all these ridiculous questions each day?

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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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yes

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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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Your wrong cause i really dont have to

You sure do sound like spyder and all his odd questions. Is this wild, is that wild, and who can forget.....are THESE wild?


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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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Is this a wild brown?

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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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i didn't think my question was stupid , i want to know how a fisherman can tell if a brown trout is wild , i am not sure if i ever caught one and could say for sure it was one !!!

Posted on: 2009/10/18 20:49


Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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troutslammer wrote:
i didn't think my question was stupid , i want to know how a fisherman can tell if a brown trout is wild , i am not sure if i ever caught one and could say for sure it was one !!!


I don;t think Sal was directing that to you. I think he was referring to past posts by 24/7.

I don't think your question is stupid but it is not such a simple answer. Often is is difficult to tell, especially based on a picture.

Posted on: 2009/10/18 20:54


Re: Largest trout (WILD/NATIVE) caught this season?

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Are you really yelling all of the time, or is the triple exclamation point thing a tick of some sort?

You can use a few visual cues to determine whether a fish is wild or not, but there is no 100% sure way to do so.

Search the forum. It's been discussed hundreds of times. The most obvious cues to me are: blue spot behind the eye, perfect fins, more sleek/slender body shape, more vivid colors. The most obvious way to tell is to examine the place that the fish was caught. Look at the natural reproduction list to find the stream you are fishing, and then use the visual cues above. You will be able to determine relatively easily after a while. It's often easy to do, but hard to explain.

I find that discerning wild fish from stocked fish becomes very easy once you begin to target wild ones in unstocked streams. After eyeballing a few, you'll be able to tell the difference.

Fishon, I'd say it's wild if the stream is known to contain loch levens, but that's just an arbitrary hunch. It looks like a montana brown.

Posted on: 2009/10/18 20:57



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