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Re: Is this a Wild Brown? Is there a definite way to tell?

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Murph,

It is stocked. It was put in by the club. Smaller hatcheries seem to raise nicer fish as their raceways are not as overcrowded.

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Re: Is this a Wild Brown? Is there a definite way to tell?

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There is no indication that this fish is stocked other than you questioning it's origin. I'm confident that the only reason some are saying that it is stocked is because you have planted the seed of doubt by raising the question.

If you said you caught this fish in Penns or Spring no one would call it out as a stocked fish.

Posted on: 7/17 5:12


Re: Is this a Wild Brown? Is there a definite way to tell?

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I too will go against the grain. I'm not at all sure about it, it is a tweener. But to me genetically it appears stocked, while the markers all say wild. Given only the pic, I'd lean wild.

It has a blue eye spot, red (not orange) spots on the side, and red on the adipose. None of these are definitive wild/stocked markers, there is no such thing, but they are the general rule, and it has the trifecta.

Is there fingerling stocking in the watershed? That could splain it. And Becker certainly plants the seed of doubt in my mind, as I'm sure he's seen the fish that club puts in.

If it is stocked as a an adult, I'm interested in the biology that leads to the blue eye spot? I've seen wild fish without it. But I haven't seen too many stocked fish with it. I understood it to be a diet thing at a very young age. As for the red spots and adipose, I have seen that on stockies. It comes from carotin in the diet (crayfish, shrimp, scuds), but does indicate the fish has been either in the stream a long time, or purposely fed a diet to color it up.


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Re: Is this a Wild Brown? Is there a definite way to tell?

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I caught a fish on Friday that looked exactly like that, except it was a little over 20 inches, but your fish and mine looks like stocked fish. I base that on the fins being somewhat ragged. The colors just don't look quite right.

Posted on: 7/17 9:40
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Re: Is this a Wild Brown? Is there a definite way to tell?

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Do hatcheries still clip the adipose fin? I did a quick google search before asking this question here but I found a lot of conflicting information. One source said that many hatcheries remove the adipose fin so if that bit is still attached there is a higher chance of the trout being wild. I don't know if that statement has any merit, but if nothing else it's another question it would be nice to have answered.

I'm happy to have caught this fish no matter where it came from and I'm even happier to say he's still swimming around out there.

Generally no they don't, unless PFBC is doing a survey and want to be able to distinguish them instantly as is the case with the LJ fingerlings a few years back.

Posted on: 7/17 9:45



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