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Guide Tipping

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What are your opinions on how much to tip a guide for 2 people in drift boat for a full day? I'm heading to MT tomorrow and have 3 days guided. Will probably be on the Beaverhead as it looks like the Big Hole and other rivers are too warm (wish I could have gone a different time of year but that's the way it goes). Both of us in the boat are average anglers. Any thoughts would be appreciated.... I just never know how much to give assuming I was satisfied with the guide. Understanding that "satisfied" has very little to do with how many fish I actually catch vs. how hard the guide worked. If it matters I think the cost of the float is $425

Thanks

Posted on: 2013/7/24 7:46


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Plan on $50 per man. Add or subtract from there based on effort.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 8:01


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I know this will tick some people off, but here it goes. Why a tip period. I mean, your paying $425 for the trip, correct? Its not exactly cheap but if someones willing to pay God bless ya. Do you tip the mechanic who repairs your car, the guy that cuts your lawn, do you tip your lawyer(oops!)we could go on and on. Your paying what the service provider is asking. If the guide is an employee, the employer should provide the proper wage.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 8:33


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Plan on $50 per man. Add or subtract from there based on effort.



+1 right on the "money" PK. That's pretty much what I do.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 8:37


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I would say, if they are an hourly employee give them a nice tip, if they are a private guide, maybe a bit less. and of course depends on the service they give you as well. they may not be able to get you a fish, based on how the fish are feeding that day, bt if the person is giving you loads and loads of helpful info even on a skuk day i'd still say it's worth it to tip.

and back to the private guide, i think a better tip would be a good recommendation to anyone who wants to know. as is said you give a guy good service, he may tell a friend, but bad service and everyone hears about it.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 8:43


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Thanks guys, I'm glad I asked cause I was thinking like $40 per guy if we were happy..... these guides work hard (at least the one I've had) don't want to be cheap!

As for not tipping at all... maybe a comment to stir the pot, but it's the accepted business model, just like tipping wait staff...

When you figure in gas, time, shuttle, flies, gear, boat maintenance I'm surprised these guys even do it for what they charge

Posted on: 2013/7/24 8:45


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hendeylathe wrote:
I know this will tick some people off, but here it goes. Why a tip period. I mean, your paying $425 for the trip, correct? Its not exactly cheap but if someones willing to pay God bless ya. Do you tip the mechanic who repairs your car, the guy that cuts your lawn, do you tip your lawyer(oops!)we could go on and on. Your paying what the service provider is asking. If the guide is an employee, the employer should provide the proper wage.


Its the same as the service industry...do you tip waiters/waitresses?

independent guide?
through an outfitter/shop?


tips are expected and how people make their (slim) living
$50 is a good baseline tip
but also go over that for a great job

and don't be a d*ck... pay cash

Posted on: 2013/7/24 8:45


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hendeylathe wrote:
I know this will tick some people off, but here it goes. Why a tip period. I mean, your paying $425 for the trip, correct? Its not exactly cheap but if someones willing to pay God bless ya. Do you tip the mechanic who repairs your car, the guy that cuts your lawn, do you tip your lawyer(oops!)we could go on and on. Your paying what the service provider is asking. If the guide is an employee, the employer should provide the proper wage.


Because you're not a cheap ass. Unless the guide is absolutely awful, you should probably tip.

Some people don't tip their mechanics, or lawn service people, but a few do, and why not? I bring my mechanic some homebrew every now and then because the value that he contributes, IMO, is more then he charges. Plus he's a cool dude, who makes sure I don't die when I'm pilot over a thousand pounds of steel, plastic, and fat down the highway at 70+ mph.

Dudes work hard. Rowing a boat isn't easy. The days a long; they're most likely before, or shortly after, dawn and are up past dark preparing for the next day. They most likely don't have traditional 'benefits'. Plus they only work for part of the year.

So don't be a cheap ass. If you can't afford the rate plus an acceptable tip, 15%-20% IMO, you can't afford a guide.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 8:57


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If a guide shows you an awesome time on a river that you aren't familiar with, shares stories, works hard to get you on fish, teaches you something and/or helps you with your casting, tip the guy.

If he sits there like a turd, doesn't talk and is miserable, you still toss him a few bucks.

The harder they work for the client, the better tip should be. This is coming from a person that all but refuses to hire a guide. If I can't figure it out some day, I might have to get a guide.

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Also, know any guides? I do. How would you like your day to be filled with helping a guy catch a fish when he can't cast 20' ?? Tip him and say "thanks for untangling my knots all day".

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A 20% tip should suffice. GG

Posted on: 2013/7/24 9:10
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As a retired fishing guide and still working Grouse Hunting guide I agree with what krayfish said. You are providing a service and the quality of the experience is best relflected by the tip. How you treat a guide also determines if he ever wants to guide you again.


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I just don't get the tipping part of the guiding business, who's the nut that started that? I guess if a guy’s working for a shop then tipping might be ok, but if he's working for himself I think the tip part is built in to the cost. But what do I know.
This whole thing about paying restaurant workers less than minimum wage and counting on the customer to pay them in the form of tips is just wrong. Pay them what they are worth, the whole country's gone mad with this idea of tipping.
I used to have a shop in Philly and every year the trash collectors would come in with their hand out, crap they made more than me, I shoulda had my hand out for giving them trash to pick up so they could keep their jobs.

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I once received a tip from a client because I charged too little. He gave me a $100 Bill, but after he left, I noticed that two bills were stuck together. This created an ethical dilemma for me-- do I tell my partner about the other bill?

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.. do I tell my partner about the other bill?


Thanks, that hit my funny bone.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 9:26



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