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Estimating Water Depth

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The ladyfriend is starting to get into FF, I was explaining the relationship between strike indicator and water depth, when she asked me "how do I get a good guess on how deep the water is when you can't see the bottom?" I wasn't too sure how to answer that (I didn't want to tell her it was a sixth sense) Any ideas??

Thanks. Brian

Posted on: 2013/4/24 0:50
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Re: Estimating Water Depth

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Probably too deep. Move to areas where fish are feeding.

Just my opinion.

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With many reasons for not being able to see the bottom the sixth sense you speak of comes with experience dunking flies, which you definitely already have, but like you say tough to convey.When I can't see the bottom of the stream I figure 2- 3 feet above the nymph to start, if I'm not catching the bottom, I adjust weight and distance until I start ticking bottom. Sometimes you just can't get there with an indy depending on depth and current speed.

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You can drift the area without an indicator and see how long it takes to get your nymph to the bottom, then place the indicator.

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You can drift the area without an indicator and see how long it takes to get your nymph to the bottom, then place the indicator.


If my guess at depth and adjustments don't get me in the zone, I do as Jack suggested and remove the indicator for a drift to get a true sense of depth. If you hang up, move your rod tip so that it is directly above the fly so the leader is perfectly vertical and you know exactly how deep the water is.

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I just step out into the run and measure the high mark on my waders. Have I mentioned fishing has been really slow for me for a while now

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Geuss and make adjustments to your indicator position and amount of split shot until you get things running the way you want.

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A wading staff!
It can be even more deceiving when wading a clear stream. Because of the many properties of water, fraction, and reflection, the streambed can look closer to you then it actually is, and appears shallow in places where the streambed is dropping away from you. In short it is very deceiving when wading in eddies. I don't now if that explains it enough, but that's what I see.

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I would try to explain that in clear water usually the bluer the water the deeper it tends to be. If the water is slightly stained not to underestimate it's depth proceed with extreme caution. And water that is deeply stained it maybe best to stay away even in familiar waterways.

It is more of a trained behavior than a 6th sense that guides you to understand water depth. Some people go through multiple soakings before they understand this. And even then, we will still challenge ourselves and our surroundings from time to time by standing on our tip -e- toes to get to a location.

Polorized glasses really make a difference in what you see and percieve.

Posted on: 2013/4/24 10:51
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You can drift the area without an indicator and see how long it takes to get your nymph to the bottom, then place the indicator


I usually don't nymph with an indicator(or I'll use my leader as one), but thats not the best way to start. For example, on a run in a limestoner when you have the green tint and the surface choppiness, I can look at it usually and pretty accurately gauge the depth to start. Is that just all experience?


Thanks for all the responses.

Posted on: 2013/4/24 12:21
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You can drift the area without an indicator and see how long it takes to get your nymph to the bottom, then place the indicator


I usually don't nymph with an indicator(or I'll use my leader as one), but thats not the best way to start. ...


I don't get this. The best way to reach the right depth or variable depth is to not use an indicator, but you are training someone else to use one? Sorry, but that makes little sense to me.

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So sorry, my wording carried on from the wading stick topic and safety. For my presentation with a nypmh and dry fly dropper, I guesstemate the depth pretty well. It seams to always work best when I over estimate - giving the nymph more bottom ticking.


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This might be an answer. GG

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I'm not sure how it's not clear, it's easier to learn to detect strikes with indicator than without, that's why I'm starting her with an indicator

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But is it easier to GET strikes? Is that why you don't use one? Why not make it easy on yourself to detect strikes by using one? And, for a final question, don't you still miss a bunch of strikes without an indicator, even in light of your advanced skill levels?

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