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Re: Competition Fishers here?

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gfen, thanks for better explaining my view!

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Don't forget to get a NASCAR jumpsuit with all the silly endorsement patches! IMHO, which probably doesn't mean sh*t to "competative fly fisherman" It should be illegal. A sport "Really?"


Excuse me stewardess, I speak Crotchety Old Man.

He's saying that he finds the entire idea of turning a pastoral, relaxing sport into a competition to be a sad commentary on the state of things, and that those who partake in it are basically missing the whole point.


No ill will towards the tourney guys, some are my freinds....but true dat, Gfen.

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During these "competitions", do they close off portions of the streams to those not participating?

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Nope. You have just as much right to fish the streams as they do. Sometimes during competitions, anglers not in the competition will fish in the designated spot of a competition angler. One may ask the non competition angler to leave, but its their every right to fish that spot as the angler in the competition.

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each unto their own.

imho the fly fishing competition circuit proves that fly fishing can be a sport as well as as past time - just like snow boarding, skiing and moto cross.

as far as i know, the social side of the circuit is pretty good, and guys help each other learn and are visiting new places.

who wouldn't wanna get paid to fish in Sweden, France or Slovenia for wild trout ?


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Thank you to those with relevant posts. I also speak "Crotchety" and you can kiss it if you think you can determine what the "whole point of it" is for me.

Posted on: 2013/7/17 19:55


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put fish in bucket
dump bucket in stream
catch fish the next day
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FLY FISHING CHAMPION!!!!


Not all FF competitions rely on stocking, but it seems a lot do. Particularly the smaller local events, "charity" events, and so forth.

I really don't see how competing to catch stockers proves anything or is any sort of accomplishment. Especially when it seems the waters selected for these events are usually re-seeded with stockies just prior to the event. Now, if the competitions are on waters that are managed for wild trout or at least not recently stocked for the event, that is different.

Either way, I don't have a problem with holding a competition as long as it is done responsibly. In fact, I wouldn't mind trying my hand at it sometime.

I do, however, have a huge problem with free-for-all, catch and kill "trout rodeos." Every aspect of these events seems contradictory to the mindset of those who actually love trout and trout fishing.

Kev

Posted on: 2013/7/17 20:16


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slumdumb wrote:
put fish in bucket
dump bucket in stream
catch fish the next day
pat self on back


FLY FISHING CHAMPION!!!!


Not all FF competitions rely on stocking, but it seems a lot do. Particularly the smaller local events, "charity" events, and so forth.

I really don't see how competing to catch stockers proves anything or is any sort of accomplishment. Especially when it seems the waters selected for these events are usually re-seeded with stockies just prior to the event. Now, if the competitions are on waters that are managed for wild trout or at least not recently stocked for the event, that is different.

Either way, I don't have a problem with holding a competition as long as it is done responsibly. In fact, I wouldn't mind trying my hand at it sometime.

I do, however, have a huge problem with free-for-all, catch and kill "trout rodeos." Every aspect of these events seems contradictory to the mindset of those who actually love trout and trout fishing.

Kev


Perhaps I am completely wrong, so hopefully Shane or someone who knows better can weigh in. To the extent of my knowledge, I do not think many competitions have stockings right before they are held. Sure, some streams do have stocked fish, but a lot of streams that competitions are held on (for the most part) have either a wild trout population or a stocked trout population with has some holdovers (not the stock n' score you guys are mentioning).

Like I said, this is just my understanding. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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No, the serious events usually don't, such as those involving national or international competition.
However, local competitions such as the one at Harman's was a stockie fest IIRC, and also events on Spruce Creek and other "trout clubs." Pretty much any time it behooves the host to have their competitors catch a large amount of fish.

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I've been competing with myself for 40+ years. Every once and a while I win.

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I prefer to stay out of this bashing and really could not care less about what others think. I will chirp in for Gaeron, but will advise him to just let it be, because it is pointless. Other then Harman's all other comps I have been a part of or have seen go on, are on wild trout water. Spring, Lacky, Nine mile are wild trout. Nine mile does get stocked, but the comp was actually used to get data on fish amounts for Catch and Release designation. There might be comps held on public waters that have been recently stocked, but not stocked for the comps. I can not speak for the southern waters, but we in the northeast are lucky to have vast quantities of wild trout waters to compete on. If anybody is actually interested in learning more or have questions, feel free to pm me.

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It may be relaxing for you and that's why you do it. It may be competitive for Shane and that why he does it. It may be that competition relaxes me and that's why I do it.

Intollerance of other peoples ways is a sad way to go through life, always worried about what the others are doing. Unless it hurts someone else.... Who cares.

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9 Mile Was Not Stocked For The Competition, But It Can Not Be Mistaken For A Wild Trout Stream. It Has Potential To Be A Wild Trout Stream, But It Is One Of The Heaviest Stocked Streams In New York. TheRe Are Quite A Few Wil Trout And Holdovers, But The Vast Majority Of Trout Caught Are Stocked. ThE 7+ Pound Trout That Are Caught There Each Year Are Stocked. Its A Fun Stream, And Has Wild Browns Rainbows AndNative Brook Trout, But These Make Up A Small Fraction Of What Is Caught.

Posted on: 2013/7/17 20:57


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Check out Trout Legend. Guys are really helpful just as here. There will be a list of comps that are scheduled to be taking place. There is one on Spring this weekend. Also, knowing where you live there will be a few coming up in the winter. Yellow Breeches comes to mind. They usually involve stream clean ups as well.

Wow, what restraint!

Posted on: 2013/7/17 20:59


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I've got no problem with those that are into it.

Personally, I'm not all that interested. Largely because I don't think I'd be very good at it, lol. And I'm not really interested in being good at it either, as it tests different skills than the ones I find most important and interesting.

I am typically more interested in where and when, than how. So, here's the deal. I'm designing a competition I'd actually have some interest in. Anglers will be pitted against other anglers of roughly the same skill level, i.e. if they fished side by side they'd do similarly. All anglers must use the exact same fly, to be provided for you the morning of. Same rod and leader set up. Same amount of weight. We'd prefer if you all used the same techniques too. We're trying to eliminate anything that could be considered "on stream skill" as a variable. This competition is about choosing where and when.

You have 2 days total. You can choose to fish whenever and wherever you want during that time, cept you are not allowed to fish between 10 p.m. and 4 a.m. You start from this spot this morning and have to be back here tomorrow night, where you go in between is your business. Hiking/driving time merely takes away from fishing time, but is allowed. Scoring is similar to other comps, except that stocked fish don't count, and brookies length gets multiplied by 1.3 to put them on an even scale with browns (an average brookie should get as many points as an average brown).

That, I might do.

Posted on: 2013/7/17 21:29



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