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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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I think some of you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm in favor of stocking over wild fish.....but only if the wild fish are brook trout. God bless and have a prosperous new year.

Might as well fire that one in there since I've been labeled already. You are taking what I've said as a blanket statement for all streams. It's on an individual basis determined by biomass of wild fish, carrying capacity of stream, water quality and angler use. At this point, you make me want to buy bull trout fry and begin stocking all of the brookie streams with them. I don't care either way because I don't waste my time crawling through the laurel to catch a 3" fish. I can go for a hike and the cast flies to 3" shiners in a drainage ditch near my house. Same difference. I wasn't talking about small native streams in general. You do your thing, I'll do mine.


Hahaha!

I'm confused with what bull trout have to do with the price of tea in China? Unless we're discussing displaced native trout in the West.


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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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They would quickly eat all of the brook trout before turning on each other.

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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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I had to reread it. I get it now. The joys of text-based communications.

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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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Since we're on the brook trout subject. The stocking of brown and rainbow trout have created an artificial idea of what trout fishing in PA should be. I've mentioned that before on here.


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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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The end result would be a stream with 1 giant bull trout. That fish would then feed on deer and brookie fishermen.

Brookies are fine, they are pretty and also weak. If you aren't sure, I'll reference big spring. If a so-so brookie fishery can become a great brown trout fishery, let's go!

I am bound by contract to drag Becker into lst of my posts, so here we go. It has been documented that there are populations of wild brookies near the feeders throughout the Lehigh. I want you to spearhead a movement to stop stocking the Lehigh so the brook trout can be protected and the population can reach its potential. I'll be your support system. We should be able to get a webpage up by midnight Saturday. You in? I'll work on Shane in the meantime

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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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Now we're bringing deer in? I don't think that will fly. You can't have fish at the expense of deer. The "no deer mafia" will be looking for a fight. It will be like Phil Robertson himself called them to arms.

I'm in! We will fight brook trout oppression.

On a serious note - One man's weak organism, is another man's specialist. It depends on which side of the coin you are on.




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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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I am bound by contract to drag Becker into lst of my posts, so here we go. It has been documented that there are populations of wild brookies near the feeders throughout the Lehigh. I want you to spearhead a movement to stop stocking the Lehigh so the brook trout can be protected and the population can reach its potential. I'll be your support system. We should be able to get a webpage up by midnight Saturday. You in? I'll work on Shane in the meantime


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Also....I am down for Bull trout if they will eat brookie fishermen.

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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season
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Hypothetical #4

Wild brook stream. Mountain freestone, with limestone influences. Very fertile for a mountain stream. Large specimens. High biomass. Cool-year round to the mouth, but, of course, relatively warmer the final mile to the mouth.

Class A for 11 miles, class D at best in the final mile, where it runs through lowland with greater exposure to sunlight and greater development.

The state owns 800 feet wide frontage over the entire lower mile, both sides. Jay Gould's heirs own the upper 11 miles.

Stock the lower mile for the peasantry or not?

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A stream that doesn't exist and will never exist but Jack will continue to stir this thread for his own enjoyment. LMAO.

To answer your question.... stock it and make the section for children and the disabled. I'd also like someone to ask the Gould's if they'd mind me operating a hotdog cart right by their property line.

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A stream that doesn't exist and will never exist but Jack will continue to stir this thread for his own enjoyment. LMAO.


I find this offensive. The stream does exist, in PA, but the names, distances and biomass may have been altered ever so slightly to bring home the point.

Posted on: 12/27 18:32
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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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I apologize but still have interest in operating a hotdog wagon on said stream.

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The stream has great populations right down to the beginning of the last mile of stream. The state owns that last mile. But that last mile has "development" problems that limit its ability to support wild trout?

Sounds like a land management problem. Or, an "opportunity for improvement" to put it in a more positive way.

Seriously, there might be an opportunity for restoration on that last mile of stream.

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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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I am just wondering what you feel is the best scenario for Benscreek and if there should be testing done to see if the stocked trout are actually making a big of an impact on the native brook trout as it is assumed.

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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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Contact PFBC to see if you can get the stream on a future survey schedule. The results may be Ben's Crk being placed on te class A list.

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Re: C&R - Extended Trout Season

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fishfuzz wrote:
The “Extended Trout Season” is bogus in my opinion.

Who would like to see a Catch and Release regulation on all trout streams after Labor Day?

I think the PFBC should still stock the streams, but manage them under C&R guidelines from Labor Day until the opening day of trout season. That way they get some people to fish in the fall and get some fish to hold over into the spring.


well it's a gray area, but PFBC says it's ok to fish C & R on wild trout streams after Labor Day, but it isn't a reg and they should make it one.

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