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Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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i also don't go out to the stream with the mind set i am gonna streamer fish all day


I sometimes do, depends on conditions. But situations where you know what you're gonna be doing are easy, you take the tool best for the job. Many rods are specialists, excelling in some types of fishing but being terrible in others. Others take the jack fo all trades approach.

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some water is nymph , some is streamer , some is dry


This is perhaps more common for me, and much more demanding on a rod. A good rod must be able to load well at close distances and deliver precise, delicate casts, AND it must have the backbone and reserve power to throw tight loops when called upon, deliver long smooth casts and sling lead. I have specialist rods and do use them. But my main use rods are the jack of all trade types.

While I haven't cast every rod in the Orvis lineup, the ones I have cast have all lacked that backbone and reserve power. You can't overpower them, they just buckle. They're fine for close, delicate work, they're specialists in that regard.

I suspect its in taper design, but I'll leave the details of that to the rod designers.

Posted on: 2010/12/22 7:32


Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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my thoughts exactly pcray , when u never know what to expect for the day then u take what u feel might cover as many situations as you can , and part of my problem is i like to fish different streams and different water all the time to make things a little more interesting

Posted on: 2010/12/22 22:05


Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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I own numerous orvis rods. There lighter weight rods are awesome IMO for my purposes. I also had 5 Orvis rod returns for damage on my part and they all were replaced with very good customer service.

Posted on: 2010/12/24 0:22


Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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While I haven't cast every rod in the Orvis lineup, the ones I have cast have all lacked that backbone and reserve power. You can't overpower them, they just buckle. They're fine for close, delicate work, they're specialists in that regard. I suspect its in taper design, but I'll leave the details of that to the rod designer


I own a few Orvis rods, and have never had one fail for lack of backbone. And I push rods to the breaking point. I have casted every rod except the helios rods, guess I had better try them at the philly show...

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Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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i seen a used t-3 7wt fast action in ex shape, asking $300.
st croix bank robber looks nice, same as cortland big sky. so many decisions, maybe wait til show in somerset. hope for a deal there.

Posted on: 2010/12/24 14:05


Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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I've never had an Orvis rod, but used a friend's last yr. The tip wound up breaking. I loved the rod prior to that and loved Orvis response: they replaced the rod with a new one, more recent model. Great service. I did give my friend a bard time though. My cheap rod lasted 20 yr and his fancy rod lasted me 2 days:) I bought a St croix legend ultra this yr (4wt), and really like it.

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Troutbumm, I have been thinking of replacing my St Croix triumph 4wt (don't think they make them anymore) and was looking the legend ultra. That is a fast action rod right? The triumph I have is a mid flex and when I try to cast longer distances than like 40 yrds I have a hard time, have good orvis line on it, which did help casting but this year, just seems to not want to cast that well. I thought it was me, so I grabbed my Helios 5wt I got last year and was casting probably around 60+ yards with great accuracy and line would roll out flat all the way to the tippet tip with the yarn fly. I also was looking at some Sage, Cabela's new LSI but kinda want a med action.

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Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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The St Croix Legend Ultra is not a super fast rod. I think they call it fast, but I certainly don't. The 8' 4wt Ultra is probably my fav rod in my arsenal (noting my arsenal is made up of much more expensive Winstons).

Oh, see your last sentence. Then yes, if you want a medium action rod DEFINITELY try the Ultra.

Posted on: 2010/12/26 16:39


Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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Been pouring over the Cabelas and Orvis fly fishing catalogs the past maybe week and tonight kinda picked a few based on some feedback in another thread. I was at Cabelas today and was going to come home with a new rod, but was getting rushed since the snow was on its way. The choices are: St Croix legend ultra 7'6" 4wt, Sage flight 7'6" 4wt, and considering a hydros, not sure if I want to spring that much for a rod right now, tho a helios or hydros would be nice with the free reel deal, I do have a reel all set right now.

Posted on: 2010/12/26 21:17


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Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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BrandonMH - Jdaddy has a good read on it. They call it fast action, and it is certainly faster than my old rod, but it is not super fast action. I never lay out that much line. Most of my fishing is mountain streams with lots of cover and canopy. I love the rod (4wt, 7'6"), but am comparing it to a much older rod with old technology.

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Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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I own a few Orvis rods, and have never had one fail for lack of backbone. And I push rods to the breaking point.


To clarify, I don't mean they actually break. I mean they lack power. When I try to get the line speed up, the rods just don't got it in em.

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I never lay out that much line. Most of my fishing is mountain streams with lots of cover and canopy.


I rarely lay out much line either. But its the cover/canopy situations where I wanna throw a tight loop with a short stroke. In the open, they're alright.

Posted on: 2010/12/27 23:15


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Rod preference is a matter of personal choice. I've always been a Sage rod fan and also liked a few rods in the Loomis line. While I agree some of the older model Orvis rods were underwhelming to me since I was a faster rod guy, the new model Orvis rods (Helios and Hydros) are great casting/fishing rods. The "Tipflex" models are are amazing light in weight and feel, while the "Midflex" models are moderately fast for those FFers that prefer a slightly slower action.

Again, rod choice is based on personal preferences, so cast all types and brands of rods until you find one that suits your casting and fishing.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 8:15


Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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a friend of mine uses sage rods and he can throw all his line and well into the backing , another friend of mine uses orvis rods and guess what he can throw all his line and well into the backing , it isn't the rods fellas ...get real !!!!!!!

Posted on: 2010/12/28 12:23


Re: orvis rods, are they good?

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T-slam - so your Sage buddy can get half way into the backing and your Orvis Buddy can only get well into the backing - I'd say the Sage gives your Sage Buddy the advantage.

Posted on: 2010/12/28 15:31



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