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Last fall before a trip up to Pulaski for salmon I bought a pr. of Orvis Encounter waders. I fished 4 days up there and then maybe a half dozen times over the winter and early spring before they started to leak. As time went on they got worse and worse.

I called TCO where I bought them and asked about any kind of guarantee. I was told that since they were lower priced waders, I could bring them in and they would send them back to Orvis and they may repair them and it might cost up to $50, or I could try and seal them myself.

Well I didn't want to be without them at the beginning of the season so decided to try and seal em. Long story short, It only slowed down the leaks which eventually got worse and worse.

My question, is this typical for a guarantee, or lack of one on waders?
I won't be buying these again. Can anybody recommend a pr. of waders that won't break the bank?

Cabela's has their Osprey II waders on sale starting May 28th for $100
Anybody have them, and how have they held up?

Posted on: 2019/5/26 13:38


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I have Simms waders,no leaks ever,but did tear them when I fell on rocks on Salmon River,sent them back to Simms for repair and they fixed them.no leaks at tear or any where else.They are pricey but in this case you get what you pay for.Look for sale on internet.

Posted on: 2019/5/26 13:46


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Check out the warranties on LL Bean and Cabela's. Under a year, with the receipt, you will get an even exchange or a new pair.

They all leak, but I think they should last a year, at least. I have 500+ dollar Simms, and they have been sent back for repair once and been Aqualsealed by me once already in under 3 years. It all depends on how much you fish (I average 75 to 100 on a good year).

Posted on: 2019/5/26 14:54
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I bought Cabela's waist high waders 8 years ago. 2 years ago there was a small leak at a seam in one of the neoprene booties. Repaired it with aqua seal. Still going strong.

About 1 1/2 years ago I bought a pair for my son. They don't have a lot of mileage on them. Recently sprung a small leak where the bootie meets wader, and some of the tape at the seams is lifting. Called Cabela's and this is what they told me: not covered under warranty and the new waders have a 60 day warranty, having to do with Bass Pro Shop buying Cabela's. I won't be buying waders there again.

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I bought Cabela's waist high waders 8 years ago. 2 years ago there was a small leak at a seam in one of the neoprene booties. Repaired it with aqua seal. Still going strong.

About 1 1/2 years ago I bought a pair for my son. They don't have a lot of mileage on them. Recently sprung a small leak where the bootie meets wader, and some of the tape at the seams is lifting. Called Cabela's and this is what they told me: not covered under warranty and the new waders have a 60 day warranty, having to do with Bass Pro Shop buying Cabela's. I won't be buying waders there again.


That is sad to hear! LL Bean with a receipt is still no questions asked, at least for the year (used to be for life).

Simms are great, but you are talking 6 to 8 weeks for a repair, so a back up is needed if you use the warranty. No personal experience with Patagonia, but I suggest a pair of cheap backups too if they leak during the season.

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Outsider, Wow 60 day warranty is really lame.

Nymph-wristed, Was that 1 yr. replacement policy before Cabela's was bought out by Bass Pro?

Maybe have to look into Simms if you guys think they're worth it. Just hate to spend that much money on waders being an old retired guy.

Posted on: 2019/5/26 18:54


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Outsider, Wow 60 day warranty is really lame.

Nymph-wristed, Was that 1 yr. replacement policy before Cabela's was bought out by Bass Pro?

Maybe have to look into Simms if you guys think they're worth it. Just hate to spend that much money on waders being an old retired guy.


Cabelas AND LL Bean used to have lifetime, 100% guarantee. No more. LL Bean will take anything back with receipt for a year though.

I have not owned them yet, but Simms Freestones are priced competitively because they are not made here... Same warranty, though, but not Gore-tex, so not as easy to find holes and fix yourself, maybe? Since I have not owned them, I don't know for sure. Maybe others know.

Posted on: 2019/5/26 21:27
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I have about two dozen trips plus two trips to the salmon river on a set of Frogg Toggs Hellbenders which are around $100. No leaks yet. And at that price, you can go with a new pair if you can’t aquaseal a leak. Just bought a pair of Cabela’s zipfronts to try out zipped waders. So they are now my backups.

Posted on: 2019/5/26 22:13


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I saw 0 correlation between money spent and life that waders lasted. Super cheap waders that I know people have and use are the Caddis breathable. I think they are $80. All waders leak. I tend to buy cheaper Bean waders. One pair of older Bean waders I have were cheap and have been aquasealed like crazy and they keep me drier than any pair I currently own, out of 5 pairs. My most expensive waders have a good leak in them. I'm waiting on warm weather/water to figure out where it is And fix it. Cabela's Bluestream are cheap dependable waders too.

Posted on: 2019/5/27 6:02


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I have two pairs of Simms Freestone waist high and they both leaked. Second pair is only 2 yrs old and leaks like a sieve with the neoprene booty. Will send back at end of season.

Don’t think thAt Simms, due to cost, will be leak free. The are not.

Posted on: 2019/5/27 7:49


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I had a pair of encounters a couple of years ago - mine started leaking after 8-9 months at the boot. I took them to Orvis (Plymouth meeting, shoutout to them cuz they are awesome) where I got them, and they refunded me 100%. I ended up trading up to the silver sonics and have had those now for about 2 years. They did the same for my encounter boots at the time, as the sole literally fell off. Traded up to their boa boot and have had those for 2 years now as well.

Only a very slow leak near the knees these days, and the boots are still in their prime. I also beat the crap out of them.

I wouldn’t suggest getting the cheapest ones- try and find a middle of the road pair. With waders and wading boots you really get what you pay for. It’s better to buy once and cry once.

Also there are only two types of waders - waders that leak and wader that are going to leak.

Posted on: 2019/5/27 8:06


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Worst luck: I have bad luck with nearly all waders. I once had a pair of Simms waders that leaked quickly. I tried to fix them but then sent them to Simms. They told me that instead of fixing or replacing them that they'd send me a Simms hat or T-shirt. Why would I want a hat or T to help advertise an inferior product? No more Simms for me. I had bought them b/c they were American-made.

Have had a little better luck with Cabela's lightweights, though the felt pulls off quickly. I have a friend who used to install carpets, and he has fixed the past two pairs. When I found the pinhole leaks in one pair, they are almost as good as new. These are relatively affordable.

Best luck: LL Bean lightweight stockingfoots. As long as I avoid the multiflora rose plants along streams, they are wonderful, and they are large enough to tuck my vest inside the waders. Why buy waders where you can't do that? In addition, these Bean waders are in the affordable range, especially since Bean has no shipping fees. I rarely go more than a year without finding a leak in a pair of waders, but the pair of Beans that I now have are in their third year without a leak.

Note about Aquaseal: Once I open the tube and use it, the Aquaseal seals the opening. In subsequent uses, I have to poke holes in the tube and get the stuff out the sides. Probably just my ineptitude.

Posted on: 2019/5/27 9:24


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I know they are all going to leak eventually, but having a pr. leak after about 10 days of fishing is totally unacceptable. Mine leaked at several different spots almost simultaniously.

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Posted on: 2019/5/27 9:45


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With regard to Aqua Seal..once opened you can put the tube in the freezer and reuse without it drying out...I know it doesn't help on stream but works for storing to use at a later date....just run under hot water when ready to use an open tube again.

Posted on: 2019/5/27 10:58


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Quote:

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Last fall before a trip up to Pulaski for salmon I bought a pr. of Orvis Encounter waders. I fished 4 days up there and then maybe a half dozen times over the winter and early spring before they started to leak. As time went on they got worse and worse.

I called TCO where I bought them and asked about any kind of guarantee. I was told that since they were lower priced waders, I could bring them in and they would send them back to Orvis and they may repair them and it might cost up to $50, or I could try and seal them myself.

Well I didn't want to be without them at the beginning of the season so decided to try and seal em. Long story short, It only slowed down the leaks which eventually got worse and worse.

My question, is this typical for a guarantee, or lack of one on waders?
I won't be buying these again. Can anybody recommend a pr. of waders that won't break the bank?

Cabela's has their Osprey II waders on sale starting May 28th for $100
Anybody have them, and how have they held up?


Orvis stands behind their products. Plus, since they haven't been worn that much, I would bring them back to TCO or an Orvis owned shop for replacement before going out to buy another pair.

Posted on: 2019/5/27 11:13



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