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Re: Santa is coming!

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I have a 8/4 3wt Orvis, the next time we fish your welcome to try it, just to see if you like one!

PaulG


Isn't that rod 8'6" Paul?


Maurice

I just knew you were going to ask that

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Thanks again to all.

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HA, Afish or anyone who's cast one...thoughts on the 865-4 XP?

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I agree with what Green said, excpet...About light rods limiting the reels you can get to match the rod(thus being expensive).

Get a BBS I they are extremely light weight for light rods and really dont cost that much for the quality you are getting.

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HA, Afish or anyone who's cast one...thoughts on the 865-4 XP?



Jaybo41 - Never cast the 4pc version, but I did cast the 2pc - contrary to the norm, it actually felt a tiny bit softer to me than the 590 XP (yes, I liked it). I opted for the 9 footer for the extra reach for nymphing. Twice (I have a 2pc and a 4pc 590). The 590 is great for nymphing and can throw streamers like a 6wt, but it's a bit much for small dries like tricos and midges. Bigger dries (like sulphers & caddis) are right in the wheelhouse though. The 586 might be a better all around rod, especially if you fish small to mid size waters. YMMV......

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I have a 590-4 XP. I've never cast the 8.5 5wt. I checked and see that Cabelas is out of stock of all but the 8.5 x 5 XPs. Angler's Pro Shop in Souderton, PA also bought a run of XPs from Sage. They have the 590-4 on sale for $499.99 (vs Cabelas @ $490).

http://estore.anglers-pro.com/cgi-bin/cat/09575.html

You can take a trip out there and cast one for yourself. About a 2hour drive from Hburg I would guess. Good luck.

Posted on: 2009/11/8 9:34


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Thanks guys, I apprecite your insight. I've actually been contemplating an 8'6 to add to the quiver to serve as an all purpose rod for everything from dries, to buggers. I've got the 9ft spectrum covered at this point. I may need to call the Cabelas in WV and take a ride south to check one out.

I know the Z-Axis replaced the XP, has anyone ever cast those that can share thoughts?

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I know the Z-Axis replaced the XP, has anyone ever cast those that can share thoughts?


Before I bought my 590-4 XP, I bought a 590-4 Z-Axis. If I had never cast an XP, I'd probably still own it. It had a softer tip than the XP - it felt too wimpy for my tastes (but not as soft as the Winston BIIx).

Fortunately for me, I found a new 590-4 XP on closeout, so I bought that and sold the Z-Axis. I was lucky to find that XP at the time - most places didn't even discount that particular XP due to demand.

Posted on: 2009/11/8 18:36


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Although I'm a Winston guy, the Sage Z-Axis is really a sweet rod and I personally wouldn't hesitate to buy one. A friend of mine who guides on the Delaware and owns a bunch of rods (including an 8', 4 weight Winston BiiX, several T&T, more than a few Orvis rods) uses 2 rods - a 9 ', 6 weight Z-Axis for the D/bass fishing and an 8.5', 4 weight Z-Axis for everything else. His guide rod is a 9', 5 weight Sage Flight - also a really nice rod.

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I agree, the Z-Axis is a great rod too. It casts very well off the tip close-in, but when compared to the XP, it lacks some of the power for longer casts and casting in the wind. Depending on your casting and fishing, it may suit you even better than the XP. The ZXL a little more towards a mid-flex rod, similar to the Winston BIIx. The TCX is a very fast long distance weapon. All these rods serve a purpose.

The thing that I like about the XP is that it casts well (for me) off tip close-in or clear across the river, with big wind resistant flies or small flies, using heavy weight or no weight, on a calm day or into a strong wind.

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Paul is your 8'4 3wt the helios? If so how do you like it Im having trouble deiciding if I want the 8'4 3wt or the 8'6 4wt. I already have the 9' 5wt and 7' 4wt. Just want something inbetween them. any thoughts?

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Paul is your 8'4 3wt the helios? If so how do you like it Im having trouble deiciding if I want the 8'4 3wt or the 8'6 4wt. I already have the 9' 5wt and 7' 4wt. Just want something inbetween them. any thoughts?


Alpa

My orvis is a Trident TLS, I've had it a long time. It's a 8-4 3wt med flex6.5, sorry I can't help you out w/t the helios, I have checked them out, feels to me like a great rod. If you could find one of those tridents, I would check it out!

PaulG

Posted on: 2009/11/11 9:41


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I have decided Im going with the Sage Axis 8'6 4wt Anglers Habitat will build one for $529 with great hardware, I'm going to match it up with a Loomis Eastfork 3/4 weight reel which has a nice weight to it...thanks for all your advice.

Jules

Posted on: 2009/11/20 11:46


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Awesome Atlantis. Great rod. Good luck with it.


BTW, I now build most of my rods. While picking the hardware and reel seat is nice, but mostly cosmetic, picking the grip is really important. I like thinner grips than most factory built rods have so keep that in mind, if you have a grip preference now is the time to tell the builder. Also, some like oversized tiptops and guides for shooting line. Some prefer single foot guides, etc. Just food for thought. Good luck.

Posted on: 2009/11/20 12:26


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Thanks for the advice Afish, I will let you know how it is when Santa gives it to me

Posted on: 2009/11/20 15:54



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