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Re: Sage Bolt 590 or Method 590

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Plan to run through a bunch of stuff on Sunday afternoon. I post my findings afterwards.

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Re: Sage Bolt 590 or Method 590

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Brookie,

Got out there tonight after work. Ran through a couple of lines quickly in the rain. Air flo river & stream, Air flo super dri distance pro, SA Expert Distance, SA Sharkwave GPX and Rio Gold.

I was casting up a slight upgrade and had 2-3 mph of wind at my back. Very quickly cast each. Honestly, not a bad one in the bunch. The Air flo lines are VERY good and worth a look. Go to their website and check the line profiles. I think the pro distance is similar to SA Expert Distance. The gold did feel the lightest and took a bit more out to load the rod more.

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After looking at the reel chart I have (yeah, my life is that empty), I see the Sharkwave GPX I grabbed was a 6 wt. Makes sense. I'm not that good of a caster and rann the entire line out pretty easily. Felt like cheating. LoL. Might keep it in the boat in case the wind picks up.

Second time touching a fly rod since early October so a little rusty but definitely not a beast to cast like the tcx was. Nice stick. I understand the ignitors are slightly softer in the tip than the method so I'm guessing you're going to have a winner for sure.

Posted on: 4/30 18:59
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I appreciate the posted test results.

I don't have any experience with Airflo lines but it sounds like they're worth a look. I have all SA lines to try, except for an old Sage line.

You're observation on Rio Gold was exactly what I experienced with it on my One.

I have Expert Distance I'm going to throw on it first, and from your results it sounded like I might not need to change it. GPX was on my list next if the Expert Distance didn't work.

I caught my first redfish on a TCX so I'm familiar with them.

Posted on: 4/30 20:02
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Re: Sage Bolt 590 or Method 590

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Fwiw, in the quick test, the SA expert distance 5wt was only a little short of the GPX 6wt.

Posted on: 4/30 23:40
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That's good to know. I need to do a better job of knowing different line tapers, and head design, and exactly how they affect performance.


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Re: Sage Bolt 590 or Method 590

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Got 5 days under my belt with the new setup. Like it a lot. Didn't even get around to changing lines, just stuck with the river & stream.

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Brookie,
You get a chance to try that new rod yet? I'm going to get back out for a couple of days and try few other lines on that method. I like the match I have on it now but want to see if anything else is similar or even better.

Posted on: 5/24 13:28
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I did cast it. I was going to start a review thread and forgot. I tried SA Expert Distance and saw no reason to change. Sorry I can't help on the line experiment.

The Igniter is a great rod for me. It casts great in close, and real accurate. It has way more feel in close than my One yet I can pick up 60' of line, haul once on the back, once on the front and shoot line with ease. It's like Sage brought back the progressive taper. I personally think the Igniter has more feel than the Method and way more than the TCX or even the One yet has more power available. I want to switch all my rod weights over to Igniters now except for the LL.

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Re: Sage Bolt 590 or Method 590

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With the reviews ....."you need to upline by 2 weights" or "this thing is too fast to be practical", I was worried that I screwed up like I did with the TCX. With 10-11 outings under my belt, can say that it's a very solid rod. It's way better in close than reviews led me to believe. At distance....boom, it can unload some line. I also let 6-7 other casters try it during the day. Half felt it was ok but REALLY fast. One guy said that he couldn't use it at all. 2 guys thought it was an amazing cannon. I've dubbed it "big red". Still have not gone past the one AirFlo line but hope to switch it up on Saturday.

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I agree the method and river and stream line are a solid combo. Definitely a cannon. Good in close too. I didn't think it was too fast and I fish slow rods and old DT lines.

I keep looking at 6wt TCRS, they are harder to cast than the Method and don't protect tippet really well or do well in close and I don't know where I would really use one but they are total cannons IMO. If they made a 9' 7wt TCR I'd have one for a streamer rod.

Posted on: 6/5 17:20


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I'm pretty sure that a TCR 690-4 could handle an 8 wt line with no prob. 7 might be a good fit for it

Posted on: 6/6 14:53
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Re: Sage Bolt 590 or Method 590

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Brookie,
That AirFlo elite distance, distance pro or whatever it's called is very similar profile to SA expert distance. Tried it out on Saturday and it considerably different than the river and stream. The line doesn't seem to feel as head heavy requires a little more work. I was casting to a fish and moon1284 yells over "what are carrying 70' of line in false casts?". I doubt that was the case but the long belly did permit keeping a lot of line in the air. If these non-PVC lines hold up like the polyfuse 7000 that I bought 20 ago and still use... that's a good investment. Still have to try the SA textured trout taper.

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Krayfish,
I'll take a look at the river and stream. I'd like to check the profile since you've found it better than the distance profile.

Igniter update: I let a buddy cast it (better caster than I am) and he was curious what it would do with a short-headed line (like a bass taper), or overlining it. We didn't have either lines (since I somehow lost the SA bass taper my One wouldn't cast), so the mystery remains. But I think I sold another Igniter for Sage.


Posted on: 6/12 0:23
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Krayfish,
I'll take a look at the river and stream. I'd like to check the profile since you've found it better than the distance profile.

Igniter update: I let a buddy cast it (better caster than I am) and he was curious what it would do with a short-headed line (like a bass taper), or overlining it. We didn't have either lines (since I somehow lost the SA bass taper my One wouldn't cast), so the mystery remains. But I think I sold another Igniter for Sage.



I've found the bass taper line with the shorter heads limit the amount of line you can aerialize when you reach the point where the head transitions to running line.

The long belly/head lines like SA Expert Distance does a better job for longer casts than the short head lines. It actually over-lines the rod at certain point so staying with the recommended line weight usually works best. Plus the long head lines work really well when paired up with the rocket-launch type rods you two nimrods are casting.

Posted on: 6/12 8:04


Re: Sage Bolt 590 or Method 590

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Brookie, which weight Igniter did you get? It's a rod I'm contemplating for taking out West.

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