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Rod Action

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What are situations you would typically use a fast action rod and where would you want to use a more moderate action? Does rod action really matter or is it just preference?

I ask because I have been using a St. Croix Imperial (what I learned on to) and have grown accustom to it. I am starting to look at other rods and I am curious if I should get something with the same action or try something new.

Posted on: 2012/2/21 22:34


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Fast actions seem to enable me to cast farther and are definately an asset against the wind.
The landing of the line takes some time to get it to be a delicate landing, and I have snapped some fish off on those surprise strikes.

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certain actions are good for certain conditions, but in the end, I feel it is personal preference and how YOU like to cast. best to try different rods and see what works for you and how you like to fish.

Posted on: 2012/2/22 6:57


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For saltwater and muskie, faster action rods do perform better in the wind and for distance casting, but I believe you are talking trout weight rods, which for the most part, the rod action is more about personal preference. Usually the rod action you tend to gravitate to, better matches you casting stroke/style. Try casting some rods with different actions to see if you like the way they cast, but don't feel that you must change rod actions because someone tell you an XYZ rod is the best. If if casts and fishes well for you - buy it.

Posted on: 2012/2/22 7:07


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Its mostly about your casting, although as you fish for a while you change your stroke depending on the rod.
There are philosophies (i agree mostly) that moderate (sometimes labeled med-fast) are better for casting weighted rigs so that the loop opens. This is true, but I also fish my fast rods while nymphing, I just adjust my stroke to open up the loop artificially.
But, my line spends more time on the water than in the guides. One advantage for me using the fast rods while nymphing is in the pickup. I can lave more line out and can still pick up. This leads to "faster" fishing and less false casts. How actions affect fishing (versus casting) is an important consideration. That's why I strongly recommend people fish with a rod, rather than just casting it, before paying a lot on a premium rod. Guys on this forum are great about hosting jams etc where you might be able to try fishing a rod for 30 or more minutes.


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Does rod action really matter or is it just preference?


Personal preference, no more, no less.

Posted on: 2012/2/22 7:49


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Yeah, I think it's preference. If I need to combat wind (admittedly, not ocean wind) I just overline my medium action rods one line wt. I just love the old IM6s.
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out west tossing big streamers,fast action is the way to go-daytime there is going to be wind and sometimes the hot inside bends and eyes of pools require a loooong reach cut under the wind.That's when you are wading-riding in a boat you can use a noodle if you pay the rower to do the work-lol

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Everyone is spot on in their advice. It is about personal preference and matching the situation. I grew up fishing bamboo and glass. When I bought my first graphite rod, it took a fair amount of time to adjust my casting stroke to become as proficient as I was with bamboo or glass. When I'm not fishing bamboo, I'm fishing one of my Orvis Superfine full flex rod. They will handle a wide variety of situations I typically encounter, but they will not handle the wind, larger flies or longer casts as well as a faster action rods.

Think of it another way You arr a golfer who is are 200 yards from the green. Would you pull a club that you can only hit 100 yards?

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It's preference, I always found slow and medium action rods difficult to cast and importantly on small streams difficult to pick up the fly with on small streams.
All my rods are fast action rods.

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Match the flex to your casting style.


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Of course, the real trick is to become a proficient enough caster where rod action just doesn't matter. Where you can pick up any stick, fast, slow or in between, wave it around and be able to lay out the line as you desire.

Posted on: 2012/2/23 7:59


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While I've long been in the camp that feels that rod "action" and similar things is an overrated subject prone to considerable over analysis........I'll reluctantly admit that I do believe that action can make some difference. If, like me, you're mainly a streamer or chuck and duck guy who fishes a lot of nymphs, a faster action rod can certainly help. Dry fly guys or finesse fellows fishing a lot of small flies and skinny stuff on smaller streams, I think, will probably be more satisfied with medium or slower action rods.

And yes, personal preference has a lot of bearing. Ditto with length. I tend to like extremely short fly rods but it's an aesthetic thing more than a practical one. A tiny fly rod has a certain feel and appeal to me much like a small double gun or short recurve bow. For those of us who have FFed long enough to remember when fiberglass rods were more common than graphite, I think there also tends to be a bit of preference for medium or slower action rods. Fly rods have definitely gotten longer and faster in the last 10-15 years and, it seems to me, that this trend has led to the resurgence of fiberglass or otherwise slower rods the last couple years(?).

Posted on: 2012/2/23 8:11


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tomitrout wrote:
Of course, the real trick is to become a proficient enough caster where rod action just doesn't matter. Where you can pick up any stick, fast, slow or in between, wave it around and be able to lay out the line as you desire.


^Truth.

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Seems like a lot more people I talk to use fast action rods. My 4wt and 6wt St. Croix reigns are listed as mod. action. I didn't choose my action, just the price of $65 a rod when they discontinued the model, and have never fished with a fast action. I am in the market for a 3wt and imagine when I get a good savings will go to a few different fly shops and try every rod imaginable to find what suits me best. I too often get caught up in "overthinking" fly fishing. I am thankful for sites like PAFF to aid me in my decision making processes.

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