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Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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+1 on not seeing the appeal of tippet rings. Blood knots are neat.


In this application it would be to preserve the length of the butt that I have nail knoted and glued onto my line.



+1 on this. I have to retie often enough that using a tippet ring saves me from replacing the butt section of my leader. Blood knots are indeed neat. But after you retie a half dozen times, you are left with a foot long butt section :)

Of course - this wouldn't be nearly the problem if i wasn't such a comedy of errors on the stream:

1. Snag on rock
2. Tippet breaks or fly dislodges - leader flies back into brush or at best causing a tangle
3. Retie
4. repeat.



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Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:07


Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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I use two nymphing leaders, and neither one has that problem.

1: 3-6ft mono furled leader -> a few feet of 2-3x to terminal tippet of 3-5x.

In this situation, when the 2-3x midsection gets too short, I just blood knot more 2 or 3x to it. Problem solved. For depth adjustment, shortening takes one blood knot and lengthening takes two. I'm out of commission for 2 minutes, max.

2: 2-3 ft amnesia -> 3-6ft 2-3x -> terminal.

Same situation. When the midsection gets too low, I just blood knot more to it.

For the furled leader, I put a few pieces of strike putty down the furled leader. I suspect this performs very similarly to jimmy's system, and it's my standard for shallow or calm water.

For the other leader, I either eurotrash nymph or put a thingamabobber on the amnesia.

The taper between 2-3x midsection and terminal is negligible.

Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:19


Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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Tropwa competition angler?!

Vaguely on drifted but not jacked topic, I find that my whipped loops on fly lines always crack where the thread meets the line. How you people deal with this? Well, Jay, at least, who does it that way. Trowpa and Jdaddy are immune from question as leet comp angling machines.

Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:21
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Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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I cut it and tie a new one. It happens maybe twice a year on a given line. Zipcast helps by keeping it soft and supple.

Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:22


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When it comes to weights.....you guys prefer small shot, or the weight putty...???

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Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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Depends. Tungsten putty is nice stuff, but it's hit or miss. Sometimes I get bad batches. If I'm going to do a lot of adjusting, I like to use it.

If I'm going to use the same amount of weight most of the day, I just go with shot.

Honestly, though, it usually depends on what I blindly grab out of my pack first.

Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:34


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Tung putty, by a long shot. Orvis tung to be exact. Loon has waaaayyyy too much variance and is subject too subject to heat/cold.

Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:37


Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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I use two nymphing leaders, and neither one has that problem.

1: 3-6ft mono furled leader -> a few feet of 2-3x to terminal tippet of 3-5x.

In this situation, when the 2-3x midsection gets too short, I just blood knot more 2 or 3x to it. Problem solved. For depth adjustment, shortening takes one blood knot and lengthening takes two. I'm out of commission for 2 minutes, max.

2: 2-3 ft amnesia -> 3-6ft 2-3x -> terminal.

Same situation. When the midsection gets too low, I just blood knot more to it.

For the furled leader, I put a few pieces of strike putty down the furled leader. I suspect this performs very similarly to jimmy's system, and it's my standard for shallow or calm water.

For the other leader, I either eurotrash nymph or put a thingamabobber on the amnesia.

The taper between 2-3x midsection and terminal is negligible.


You have a whipped loop and can change leaders. I have nail knotted left over butt to my line. It must function as dry and nymph butt. Figure a ring might just work there.

Or I could send the Sharkskin back to SA again and them I want yet another replacement. But the hip old cats say loops are for weenies, so I nail knotted it to prove I am a real man.

Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:40


Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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I tie my flies with a ton of lead and tungsten bead. When at all possible I try to aviod using shot. On PA's bunch of limestone streams and most freestone stream if your casting far enough upstream you shouldnt need much if any shot. The beads will do the work for ya.

I'm gonna get blasted for saying this. Watch the responses to follow.

" I cut my flies of and change shot placement everytime I switch runs."


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Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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I tie my flies with a ton of lead and tungsten bead. When at all possible I try to aviod using shot. On PA's bunch of limestone streams and most freestone stream if your casting far enough upstream you shouldnt need much if any shot. The beads will do the work for ya.

I'm gonna get blasted for saything. Watch the responses to follow.

" I cut my flies of and change shot placement everytime I switch runs."



Saything? Off to urban dictionary I go . . .

Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:44


Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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Tung putty, by a long shot. Orvis tung to be exact. Loon has waaaayyyy too much variance and is subject too subject to heat/cold.


This. I've been abusing the same little container for two+ years now, and I notice its getting worse and worse at holding, although that might be temp issues.

If its way cold, it'll crack off. Too warm, it'll fall off. Whatever.

I won't go back to shot, though, never ever. Not unless I'm pretending to be a competition fly angler and PA Dutch Nymph with a fly or two and a BB shot above it and just drag across the bottom.

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Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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Tung putty, by a long shot. Orvis tung to be exact. Loon has waaaayyyy too much variance and is subject too subject to heat/cold.


This. I've been abusing the same little container for two+ years now, and I notice its getting worse and worse at holding, although that might be temp issues.

If its way cold, it'll crack off. Too warm, it'll fall off. Whatever.

I won't go back to shot, though, never ever. Not unless I'm pretending to be a competition fly angler and PA Dutch Nymph with a fly or two and a BB shot above it and just drag across the bottom.


Split shot is not allowed in competition! Keep up!

Posted on: 2011/8/24 15:48


Re: Nymphing Leaders?

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I thought you weren't allowed to use shot in competition? Wheres Aaron Jasper he would straighten us out.

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Saything? Off to urban dictionary I go . . .


The Letter Plank that helps him operate the Porn Distribution Unit in front of him is difficult to operate, be gentle. Sometimes he can't just point and click.

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I thought you weren't allowed to use shot in competition? Wheres Aaron Jasper he would straighten us out.


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